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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you. Roz McCall has questions.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

One of the questions that I posed last week was whether, with its proposed codification, the bill would, if it were to pass, help economically. Given what you have both said this morning, my understanding is that you do not think that codification is the right thing to do. However, do you think that the bill would assist businesses in entering and leaving leases?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2025 of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee. I remind everyone to switch off or put to silent their mobile phones and other electronic devices.

I want to make the committee aware that Katy Clark will have to leave the meeting this morning, as she is speaking to amendments to a bill that is going through the stage 2 process. Jeremy Balfour is currently at the committee in question, speaking to his own amendments, and he will join us in due course.

The first item of business is a decision on taking business in private. Is the committee content to take items 7 and 8 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Under agenda item 3, we are considering four instruments, on which no points have been raised.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is the committee content with the instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments not subject to Parliamentary Procedure

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is the committee with the instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

I have a question to ask before I bring in Bill Kidd.

Stacey Dingwall, a few moments ago, you said that you would be “reticent” about repealing the 1949 act and that, if that were to happen, you would need to have some type of backstop to deal with it. You also touched on how the bill will go some way to dealing with your concerns. Are there any other specific things that FSB Scotland would like to have in place if the repeal were to go ahead, whether that is in the bill or as a separate piece of legislation?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

As colleagues have no final questions, I thank you for your evidence this morning. Once again, it has been very helpful and thought provoking. It will certainly help us as we continue our deliberations, with the minister in front of us in a couple of weeks’ time. If there are any particular points to make after today, please send them to us in writing—that would be helpful.

That concludes the public part of the meeting. I move the committee into private.

11:39 Meeting continued in private until 12:05.  

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Before I bring in Roz McCall, I want to know whether, based on what you have both said so far—we will go into the details of the bill later—you recommend that the bill be withdrawn or substantially amended.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Later this morning, we will hear from the Federation of Small Businesses Scotland. In its submission, it states:

“We welcome the measures contained in the Bill which seek to address some of the power imbalances between small tenants and large landlords.”

Do you agree with that, or do you think that this section of the bill should have a more flexible approach? Dr Skilling, would you like to respond?