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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Colin Beattie

Witnesses have been telling us how complex the procurement process is and how difficult it is to access. How do you tackle that? I am thinking particularly about small companies that do not have the resources or experience to put together complex documents.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

I was going to ask a question about improving training for board members. Having read the Auditor General’s report and the corporate governance review, frankly, I think that the level of incompetence in the board is breathtaking. There is no challenge and very little scrutiny and there seems to be no understanding of proper governance. To me, an induction for board members is an induction, rather than training. Board members should be chosen for the skills that they have and the expertise that they can bring to the board, and not because they come in needing training.

Is there a problem with our recruitment process for non-executive directors? This is not the first time that the committee has looked at problems that have arisen in the public sector and found at least some issues with the way in which non-execs have approached a situation. I am not blaming the board solely—there are other issues—but I am focusing on the board. Is there a problem with our recruitment process?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

Again, when it comes to the board, I would like some reassurance that proper scrutiny and challenge are in place, because—hopefully—we have learned through all the deficiencies that have been thrown up both in the audit and in the corporate governance review. What sort of reassurance can we have that those deficiencies have been rectified?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

My understanding, based on evidence that we have taken in other meetings, is that each NHS board has unique characteristics because of the way in which it has developed, and that there is a need for each board to provide some familiarisation for directors coming in. That is normal: it is not unique to the NHS. Non-executive directors are appointed to the boards of many different types of private and public organisation.

Let me move on.

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

Good morning, Auditor General.

Nothing happens without money. The whole programme hangs on whether public and private investment can be obtained in very large quantities. The fourth recommendation in the report is that the Scottish Government should

“clarify how it will use public money in the short and long term to support the delivery of its Heat in Buildings Strategy objectives, while achieving value for money”.

When would you expect the Scottish Government to be able to do that? What evidence would you expect to see in order to demonstrate that value for money is being achieved?

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

To me, there are two ways that the private sector can get involved. One is by directly financing discrete projects; the other is by providing finance to householders to carry out whatever works are needed in their homes. Has consideration been given to the balance between those? It seems problematic that the facility to go into debt to do that work will be particularly attractive to households. Has any analysis or work been done on that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

I hear what you are saying—that training has been provided to the board over a period of years, that there is induction, and all the rest of it. However, that did not work so well. What is the point of training people and giving them all that guidance, when it appears on every side that that did not work and they did not take any notice of it? Where is the scrutiny? Where is the challenge?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

The governance review and the overall picture here at my desk do not look too good.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

That is a relatively short time.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

I am pleased if the situation has improved but, as we are an audit committee, we look backwards. We look at what was, not so much at what is, and we try to get to the bottom of it—to drill down as to why something happened and how it can be prevented in the future. That is our role.

It appears that there have been significant gaps in governance. We want to get to the bottom of that and find out how we can ensure that it does not happen again, because there is a pattern—this has happened elsewhere, albeit not necessarily to the same extent. We want to know, therefore, whether there is an endemic problem. For example, is there a problem in the recruitment processes? We look at everything.