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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Colin Beattie

You obviously collected a lot of information. Your paper touches on social media, the speed of communications and the desire of constituents and so on to get an immediate response—everything is immediate. I get more than 500 emails a day, so I do not know how immediate I can be. Councillors must be encountering the same thing. What specifically was your impression? It seems to me that the workload—in relation to the volume and immediacy of the things that are coming forward now—has increased hugely.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Colin Beattie

To touch on something else, did you speak to former councillors as part of the process and hold an exit consultation with them, if you like, to understand the reasons why they stood down? It is quite important to know whether it was because of salary, just because of uncertainties of the job, or because of online abuse, which is fairly out of control at the moment.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Colin Beattie

Such a data set would be useful. However, it does not exist at the moment. Would the easiest thing not have been to go to the individual political parties, which would have known who their ex-councillors are and could have put you in touch?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Colin Beattie

I will ask about what is perhaps a more controversial recommendation from SLARC. Does COSLA agree with the recommendation to strengthen legislation to ensure that councillors perform their duties?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Colin Beattie

Is Brianna Fletcher there?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Councillors’ Remuneration and Expenses (Recommendations)

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Colin Beattie

One of the things that you have referenced is that the average hours worked by an ordinary councillor is 28 hours and 45 minutes, which is quite a lot. If they are expected to do a full-time job on top of that, that will be very tricky to do. At best, people might be able to work part time, which is limiting in itself in respect of future prospects. From my experience, I believe that councillors are underpaid, but I do not know what the level of pay should be. Do you think that it is fair to say that 28 hours and 45 minutes is a part-time job?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Beattie

It is 49.5 per cent.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Beattie

Secondary. For the primary school it is 54 per cent. These are not unusual percentages in my area. I know that my area’s figures are slightly higher than some.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Beattie

I do not disagree with anything that you say. Everything is individual, each person responds in different ways and you have to build the support around that. My concern is the scale, which is worrying. How do the resources get put in place for this? It is not just a question of money. It is people and the support that people can give to these young people. How do we do it? That is an impossible question.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Colin Beattie

We had the benefit of hearing from some young people who had been through the experience of getting support and so on. They came here and we had the opportunity to speak to them and get their views, which was really valuable. The ones I spoke to were very scathing about what support they received at school. Subsequent to that, as they transitioned on, they were fairly scathing about the jobcentres as well. They felt that the jobcentres did not know what to do with them.

I also had the opportunity in the past week to visit a couple of schools in my constituency. I have one high school that has 49.5 per cent additional support needs and I have a primary school with 54 per cent additional support needs. That scale is huge. How do we address that?