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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

There seems to be an element of user pushback on some of these things—especially bus gates. There is an issue with those here in Edinburgh, and I think that there will be a partial reversal. Is there a consistent thread of consumer dissonance over the works that are being done?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Is this perhaps an aspect of a fundamental change? We all talk about the pre-Covid footfall in shops, museums, public places and so on, and we always say that it has not gone back to pre-Covid levels. We are talking about how the use of public transport has not gone back to the pre-Covid level. Has there been a fundamental change within society that we need to understand to make some of these initiatives effective?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

I will say, though, that the word “domestic” implies “domestic”. It does not imply public transport, trucks or commercial vehicles.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

The problem with national conversations is that they usually pull in the same people every time, so you do not get down to where you want to get to.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

In that case, I will move on to bus services.

Bus services are often cited as being a problem. People who talk about giving up their cars say that the public bus service is very poor—which is true in some areas. To what extent is it true that the lack of buses affects the travel decisions that people make, and what is contributing to that?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

It seems that there are alternatives to subsidies for bus routes that operators consider to be less lucrative—I refer to routes that bus operators expect the Government or the local council to top up in order for them to provide the service. Therefore, the scope to expand bus services is somewhat limited, because the cost of subsidising those routes is met by the public purse. How are we going to achieve that expansion?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Has the Government done any evaluation work to assess the impact of existing funding of bus and rail services on reducing car use?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Over what length of period would you expect to collect the data in order for it to be a meaningful indicator of where we are going?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

So, the breakdown of emissions excludes commercial vehicles and public transport. Is that correct?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

So, those emissions are included under domestic transport.