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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

But if it happens every year, there is clearly a flaw in the system.

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

Does that 1 per cent equate to approximately the same as the UK figure?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

Mr Davies, I have been involved with public audit committees since the Scottish rate of income tax was introduced several years ago. I want to begin with a very simple question, and then I will focus more on the actual report.

One of the things that jumps out of the report is the 70 per cent increase in the number of missing Scottish postcodes. It still represents a small proportion of the taxpayer population, but if it includes large numbers of high-net-worth individuals, it could have a significant effect on the tax collected. What is behind that increase? What is driving the error?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

I refer back to our previous discussion. There are four bullet points in paragraph 1.23 on page 17 of the report that I find very telling in terms of the robustness of the figures around Scottish income tax. To me, they clearly indicate that there is a real problem in calculating the figures.

We talked about the notional £800 million figure. Bullet point 3 says that the figures that are being used

“do not exclude tax from savings and dividend income”.

You cannot possibly get something accurate out of those figures, because that is not an area within the Scottish Government’s tax authority.

Bullet point 2 refers to the “differing proportions” of types of taxpayers north and south of the border. The figures are completely distorted, because London, for example, is massively overrepresented in terms of the top income tax payers. We do not have that situation in Scotland. If we are using a methodology to calculate the figures that does not account for that incredible difference, how can the figures possibly be accurate?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

But it comes back to the theme of estimates and assumptions that runs through all of this. For example, paragraph 1.11 on page 13 says:

“HMRC deducts an estimate of the Scottish share of tax reliefs given against PAYE liabilities.”

How does it reach that figure? What is it based on? Is it based on some of the flawed data that you have highlighted in paragraph 1.23?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

I also note paragraph 1.16 on page 14, which says:

“HMRC calculated both deductions by estimating the Scottish share of each tax relief claimed across the UK using historical data.”

I do not know what those “historical data” are.

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

I could go on, but I am conscious of time.

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

In paragraph 15, you say:

“HMRC ... estimates Scotland’s share of net losses was £800 million ... based on a proportion of the UK figure, rather than ... Scotland-specific data”.

How exactly does it calculate that share of the net losses? Is it simply a percentage based on the volume of taxpayers that we have or is there some other esoteric formula?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2020/21”

Meeting date: 3 February 2022

Colin Beattie

I will ask for a bit of clarification on one or two specific areas of the report.

As I said, anybody reading the report would have a concern at the level of estimations right the way through it. I know that you consider that the system that is in place is robust, but that is dependent on having a system to produce those estimates. It is very difficult to get a grip of the facts, so let me ask one or two questions.

In paragraph 6 on page 4 of the report, you talk about HMRC producing

“a provisional estimate of Scottish income tax revenue for that year.”

Is that in line with what you do for the UK?

09:30  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Colin Beattie

I will pick up on a couple of points. You touched on rates relief and seemed to indicate that that is not tremendously beneficial in some ways. However, since 1 April 2020, businesses—not just in the tourism and hospitality sector—have saved a total £1.6 billion in rates. That is not inconsiderable; it is a fairly large sum.

I would like to explore debt levels. You mentioned the bounce back loans: if they have been drawn down, businesses have not spent them because they are afraid of repayments. We have heard about that in previous evidence. To what extent is that an issue?