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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Colin Beattie

Therefore, one could describe that as a pragmatic compromise.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accountsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

I am sure that there will be an appetite for that when the time comes.

I want to move on to fraud and irregularities around Covid-19 expenditure. Obviously, the two big business support schemes totalled nearly £1.6 billion. They responded quickly to Covid-19. Obviously, there was a need to get money to the right place at the right time very quickly, which opens up a higher-risk element.

I notice that the Scottish Government estimates that fraud and error will account for 1 to 2 per cent of those payments, involving approximately £16 million to £32 million. How does that equate to the figures that we see coming from Westminster, which are obviously on a bigger scale? We see estimates from there of £15 billion or more. Have we been better at it? Given that Westminster has had that experience, why are we better? Why is the figure not proportionately as high here?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accountsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

The logical extension of that is that until you know the whole picture, you cannot know whether all the estimates that you are making are particularly accurate.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accountsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

Local authorities are confirming to you the number of cases and so on, but you do not have information on what they are doing about them. You say that the authorities are pursuing cases vigorously, but you have no evidence to show that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Canalsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

Auditor General, turning to a slightly different aspect, I note that the report makes it clear that the cost of running Scottish Canals exceeds the funding and income. Paragraph 11 says that, in 2020-21, the income was £18.8 million and the outgoings were £22.7 million, so there was a net negative of £3.9 million. What are your views on the financial sustainability of Scottish Canals?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Canalsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

[Inaudible.]—there is something I want to ask. I was going to ask what the role of the external auditors was, because they must have been advising the board all the way along. Were they ignored? Did they not give sufficient advice, guidance or clarification? Perhaps Joanne Brown can give us a bit more information on that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accountsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

When Colin Cook referred to the value of the assets, he talked about their book value. Are we relying on that rather than their market value?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accountsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

So we are basing this on the book value of the assets according to the company.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accountsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

How often will you revisit the matter to ensure that the value of the assets has not been impaired?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accountsâ€

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

Okay.