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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 December 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Our second evidence session is on PE1928, which was lodged by David Gallant. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to provide free rail travel for disabled people who meet the qualifications for free bus travel.

We last considered the petition at our meeting on 20 April 2022, when we agreed to write to Transport Scotland to seek an update on the fair fares review. A copy of Transport Scotland’s response has been included in our meeting papers for today.

At the meeting on 20 April, we also agreed to hear evidence from the petitioner and from Sight Scotland. I am pleased to welcome to the meeting the petitioner, David Gallant, and Nicoletta Primo from Sight Scotland. It is a pleasure to have both of you with us. The petitioner is not always present when we consider their petition. It is helpful that both of you are here today.

Members have a number of questions that they would like to ask, but we understand that both of you wish to say a few words first. I am happy with that. The clerks will have told you that your contribution cannot be longer than a speech in the chamber. We look forward to hearing from you. Have you drawn straws to see who will speak first? I see that David Gallant will do so.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Okay. Is that all that you wished to say to us in advance?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

The information that we have about companion travel is that some authorities, such as Fife Council and West Lothian Council, and Strathclyde Partnership for Transport offer a 50 per cent reduction for companion travel. Are you aware of any evidence that that has made any difference to the incidence of companion travel in those local areas?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

They cannot access the existing benefit.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I was slightly confused, because they do not get a free ticket; they get a 50 per cent reduction.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I would therefore have expected them still to have a ticket so that, irrespective of where their journey ended, they would be able to present the ticket that they had purchased.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Do they then get on the train having not paid any fare at all?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I think that we can agree that it would be interesting to consider those points, and then we will have the information available when we next consider the petition.

I thank David and Nicoletta for coming along. Their evidence is much appreciated and will certainly help to inform our consideration of the petition. I suspend the meeting briefly to allow a change of witnesses.

10:35 Meeting suspended.  

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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

That is helpful. Thank you.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Please do.