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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 December 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

New Petitions

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

We thank the petitioner for lodging the petition, but, unfortunately, I do not think that there is more that we can reasonably hope to achieve in the very limited time that is left to us in this parliamentary session. For the reasons that Mr Torrance has suggested, we are closing the petition, but again we thank the petitioner for submitting it.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

New Petitions

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Mr Torrance. Are members content to support the proposal?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Emergency Cardiac Care

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Our second agenda item is a very important evidence session, during which we will consider cardiac and stroke care issues that have been raised in various petitions. I am delighted that we are joined, again, by the Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health, Jenni Minto—a semi-frequent guest at our proceedings—and by Scottish Government officials working on the long-term conditions policy: Kylie Barclay, senior policy manager; Martin Macdonald, stroke senior policy manager; and Will Wood, unit head. I welcome you all. Thank you for joining us.

Our evidence session will cover recurring themes and issues that have emerged from the committee’s consideration of petitions PE1989, which calls for an increase in the number of defibrillators in public spaces and workplaces; PE2048, which calls for a review of the FAST—face, arms, speech and time—stroke awareness campaign; PE2067, which calls for improved data on young people affected by conditions that cause sudden cardiac death; and PE2101, which calls for defibrillators for all primary and secondary schools in Scotland.

The committee recently had a round-table discussion that teased out a number of the issues relating to the petitions. The discussion left the committee more convinced in some respects than in others. For example, we recognise that a lot of modern schools are being built outside of town, which is, potentially, not where a defibrillator might otherwise need to be. At the same time, there is now a map of defibrillator access across Scotland, and we are concerned that, in certain areas—particularly Glasgow and the west of Scotland—there is an obvious deficiency. I was able to put that question to the First Minister at the Convener’s Group meeting. He did not agree with all aspects of the question that we put, but he at least recognised that defibrillator access is something of a postcode lottery and that that is not ideal with regard to people’s ability to survive these issues.

Minister, do you wish to say anything by way of an introduction, or are you happy for us to go to questions?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Emergency Cardiac Care

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

You mentioned Steven Short. He made the point that community responder units might be another way of ensuring that we access individuals quickly. How might the Scottish Government expand and sustain community responder schemes and give confidence in cardiopulmonary resuscitation defibrillator use? We all know that early bystander intervention can make a tremendous difference in getting a successful outcome. I was impressed with how he articulated that as a potential route, but how might that suggestion become something closer to an implemented strategy?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I think that that would be helpful. I will then bring in Fergus Ewing.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Emergency Cardiac Care

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I am grateful for that. We do not want an impression of intransigence to be given. Instead, we could say that BE FAST is something that others might have moved to at this stage and that, although we do not dismiss the possibility of its value, we do not think that it is the right step to take at this point. There is a distinction between those two things and how they are coloured.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Emergency Cardiac Care

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I thank you and your colleagues again, minister. I will suspend the meeting briefly.

10:28 Meeting suspended.  

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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Fergus Ewing?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Emergency Cardiac Care

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Sorry for interrupting you, Mr Ewing.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Emergency Cardiac Care

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I suspect that that would be a matter of some good fortune for ministers, Mr Ewing. [Laughter.]