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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

Good morning and welcome to the 12th meeting in 2021 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Our first item of business is a decision on taking items 4 and 5 in private. Are members content to do that?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

Our main item of business is the third evidence session of our inquiry into Scotland鈥檚 supply chain. The inquiry looks at the short and medium-term structural challenges that are facing Scotland鈥檚 supply chain and how the challenges and shifts in supply chains are impacting on Scotland鈥檚 economy. We want to consider how to build future resilience and whether there are opportunities to develop domestic supply chains. Our inquiry is structured around three themes: people, places and product. This session is our first on places; it will look at logistics.

I thank our witness panel for attending. I welcome Richard Ballantyne, chief executive, British Ports Association; Kiran Jude Fernandes, professor of operations management, Durham University business school; Bryan Hepburn, operations manager, DFDS Group; Maggie Simpson, director general, Rail Freight Group; and Robert Windsor, policy and compliance manager and executive director, British International Freight Association.

As we have five witnesses, I ask members and witnesses to keep questions and answers as concise as possible. Witnesses will be able to provide supplementary evidence after the meeting, so I ask them to focus in their answers on key points that are relevant to the committee. I also note that Ms Simpson will have to leave at 10.30, and we will allow time for that to happen.

I will ask the first question, which I will direct to Bryan Hepburn. I will be interested in Robert Windsor鈥檚 views as well, so I will go to him first.

The committee understands the supply chain pressures that we are all facing through Covid, and the impact that Brexit has also had. There are well-known pressures, such as the shortage of heavy goods vehicle drivers and the changes to customs procedures, which have been challenging for businesses to introduce. In addition, at the moment, there are press reports about threats that France will introduce additional measures because of the dispute over fishing, and threats from fishermen that they will block the port of Calais. Those add to the existing pressures.

Mr Windsor, will you talk about the current situation that is being faced by British freight? What is your response to their concerns about the potential conflict that is ahead with France in particular?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

Yes, we can.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

Agenda item 3 is consideration of a Scottish statutory instrument. The committee is invited to note the Public Procurement (Agreement on Government Procurement) (Thresholds etc) (Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2021. In its report, the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee drew the instrument to the attention of the Parliament because two errors were identified. The Scottish Government has acknowledged those errors and has laid an amending instrument. At this point, we are asked simply to note the instrument. Are members content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

I thank the witnesses for bearing with us. The whole Parliament experienced a sudden internet outrage鈥攕orry, I mean outage, which is an outrage. No, it is not an outrage鈥攚e understand that the broadcasting office has worked hard to resolve the issue and we are pleased to welcome the witnesses back.

Maggie Simpson has had to leave the meeting, as she notified. Colin Smyth has questions for the remaining witnesses.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

Thank you, Mr Windsor.

Bryan Hepburn, would you like to talk a bit about the pressures that your business has faced and what you think are the main issues that are creating a challenging environment for our supply chains? Also, can you comment on how we can resolve some of the pressures? What would ease the situation?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

Thank you. We move into private session.

11:36 Meeting continued in private until 12:19.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

You mentioned importing. Is the bureaucracy, rather than the shortage of goods, creating the blockages around imports? It sounds as if you can source the goods that you are trying to source but the difficulty is that people find the new system challenging.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

Unfortunately, Professor Fernandes has had to briefly leave the meeting. I hope that he will be able to return.

I understand that Richard Ballantyne wants to come in on this point, so I invite him to do so.

10:45  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Scotland鈥檚 Supply Chain

Meeting date: 24 November 2021

Claire Baker

Thank you, Ms Chapman.

We are extremely pushed for time. I will allow a brief question each from Jamie Halcro Johnston and Michelle Thomson. If the question could be directed to one panellist, that would be helpful.