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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 4 May 2022

Claire Baker

Following up on Stuart Mackinnon’s answer, some of the local businesses that we had at our round-table session and businesses in my region have spoken about how they started to sell online during the pandemic, when their online sales were really positive and a growth part of their business, but they are now seeing what they describe as a significant dip in online sales. The cost of living crisis could be a factor, but they are trying to understand why it is happening. They are small businesses, so when they are making investment decisions, they seem to be trying to decide whether to invest in their online offer to make that more attractive or to focus on their local market, which was their market prior to the pandemic. Is that a common story that the FSB is hearing from small businesses and what advice would you give to them?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 4 May 2022

Claire Baker

I welcome our second panel of witnesses. From Scottish Development International, we are joined by Neil Francis, the managing director, and Siobhan McDermit, the team leader of digital trade services. We are also joined by Hugh Lightbody, chief officer with Business Gateway.

As before, I ask members and witnesses to keep their questions and answers as short and concise as possible. All three witnesses will get a chance to answer some questions. They might not be called for each question, but they will get a chance to speak.

The previous panel of witnesses said that, traditionally, Business Gateway would not offer support for retail. The sector is not prioritised. During the pandemic, more Scottish Government support went through local agencies—in particular, for retail, there was business rates support. Our inquiry is considering the changing nature of retail. Do the witnesses see any future role for Business Gateway or local agencies to give more support to, or have more engagement with, the sector?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 4 May 2022

Claire Baker

Is that a recent increase? The previous witnesses said that, traditionally, there was less engagement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 4 May 2022

Claire Baker

We are coming up to an election this week, so there might be some questions that you are not comfortable addressing, but do you find that there is variation across Scotland in the support that Business Gateway is asked to provide to retail—you do not have to mention places—or is it the same?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 4 May 2022

Claire Baker

That is no problem.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 4 May 2022

Claire Baker

Are you undertaking work to support businesses to understand the new trading environment?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Claire Baker

I remind members that they do not have to address their questions to every panel member. If you name a panel member, that will help us to complete the session in time.

Jamie Halcro Johnston is next.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Claire Baker

Good morning and welcome to the 11th meeting in 2022 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Are members content to take item 4 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Claire Baker

Thank you. Given that the issue was raised right at the end of our session, if you would like to add any comments about the cost pressures that have arisen due to the pandemic, please send them to us. That will be helpful.

I will bring the session to a close. I thank the four members of the panel for their contributions, which are very much appreciated. We will have a brief suspension before the next panel comes in.

10:57 Meeting suspended.  

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Claire Baker

I welcome our second panel: Ruth Boyle is policy and parliamentary manager at Close the Gap; Joanne Cairns is head of research for the Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers; and Bryan Simpson is industrial organiser for Unite Hospitality. I ask members and witnesses to keep their questions and answers as short and concise as possible.

I will ask the first questions, which I will address to Joanne Cairns. Will you outline the impact of the pandemic on retail workers? How has retail changed in recent years? Will you also give us an idea of the size of the sector in Scotland? I think that the Co-op Group said that it employs 7,000 workers in Scotland. Will you say a wee bit about what the sector looks like in Scotland?