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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

Thank you. Mr Thomson mentioned UK Government surveys. The Scottish Government is undertaking an emergency budget review and statement is due in Parliament quite soon. It brought together an expert panel. Has there been any consultation with the expert panel or the Scottish Government about what needs to be done to support businesses? Comments were made that the 2022-23 programme for government was quite light in terms of business support. It mentioned the small business bonus scheme, which we have had for a while, and it referred to having the lowest poundage, but it did not contain any new announcements. Has there been any consultation with the expert panel or the Scottish Government? I know that we are working to tight timescales, but has there been any discussion?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

That was in April.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

As members will have observed, David Thomson has had to leave us. It is for understandable reasons, and he has given his apologies for the rest of the meeting.

I call Colin Beattie, to be followed by Fiona Hyslop.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

Would anyone else like to respond to Michelle Thomson鈥檚 question or has Paul Sheerin covered it?

11:00  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

Has anybody had more recent discussions in relation to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

That is helpful. Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

Before recess, we had a panel of witnesses from the hospitality and tourism sector. They described the cost of living crisis as a greater challenge for them than Covid and compared the support that they got for businesses to survive during the pandemic to what they are getting now.

I do not get the same impression from this morning鈥檚 witnesses. I do not know whether Covid was easier for your sectors to cope with than it was for hospitality and tourism. Can the challenges with which businesses are presented at the moment be compared to the lockdowns that we had with the pandemic? Do you see any parallels between the support that you would expect or have seen from Government for the current situation and the support that there was during the pandemic?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

I thank the witnesses for sharing their expertise and experience with us.

We now move into private.

11:03 Meeting continued in private until 12:37.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

In the budget, there is a proposed reduction of 拢53 million in the employability budget for this year. That money is focused on those who are furthest from the labour market. The Government has justified it by saying that the labour market is tight and that people are not short of employment. However, it would reduce the services available to the harder-to-reach members of the workforce. Do you have any concerns about that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Claire Baker

Our next item of business is the second cost crisis evidence session as part of the committee鈥檚 pre-budget scrutiny work. The purpose is to inform the committee鈥檚 pre-budget scrutiny work with the aim of influencing the budget before spending priorities for the next financial year are decided on.

I welcome to the meeting Euan Clark, the commercial director of the Scottish Building Federation; Ian Laird, the chair of the Scottish Textile Industry Leadership Group; Paul Sheerin, the chief executive officer of Scottish Engineering; and David Thomson, the chief executive of the Food & Drink Federation Scotland. David joins us online. I thank the witnesses for joining us.

We decided to look at the cost of doing business as part of our budget scrutiny, but that was more than 45 days ago and quite a lot has happened during the past 45 days. Our reason for that was high energy costs and recognition of the fact that your sectors are high energy users. Has the response from the Governments been sufficient for you to cope with the rises that you have seen? Does there need to be further action by the United Kingdom Government, in particular, which has come forward with measures on energy use?