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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning鈥攐r, rather, good evening, Dr Wilson. Morning for us; evening for you.

I will ask about the criteria for creating new officers, which is the issue that in effect led to this committee being established. There are a number of proposals to set up new commissioners, and we have been tasked with looking at how that is taken forward. What does the decision-making process for creating new officers of Parliament look like? What are the different avenues? Could you give us examples of where new officers have been proposed and who was consulted? How does that all come together?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Murdo Fraser

That is really helpful. That is quite a long list of officers that have been proposed. Do those proposals come only from the Government, or do they come from elsewhere, such as from members of Parliament and so on?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Murdo Fraser

I have a final question, given what you have just said about the principle that new officers of Parliament should be created only rarely, and that none has been created since 1989. If there is a compelling need to do so, how does the committee balance that with the requirement to create new officers only rarely? How does that issue get resolved?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning to the panel. There are a couple of things that I want to pick up on. I will start off with Susan Love, because she mentioned in passing the apprenticeship levy. When we meet employers, the issue is raised with us continually that they pay into the apprenticeship levy but there is very little transparency as to what happens to that money, unlike the situation south of the border. I am interested in getting any perspectives that you have on the transparency of the apprenticeship levy funding and whether you think that there are lessons we could learn in Scotland from what happens elsewhere in the UK.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Murdo Fraser

Does anyone else want to come in on this? Ian Hughes, do you have a comment to make on the apprenticeship levy?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Murdo Fraser

I have a slightly different question, and I will again start with Susan Love, because Susan and I have discussed this issue before.

Graduate apprenticeships seem to tick lots of boxes. They are very popular with employers and with students, who graduate without large sums of debt. They have been earning for four years and are far more work ready than if they had gone down a purely academic route. Why are we not making more progress in providing graduate apprenticeship places? Last week, James Withers told us that the city of Manchester has more graduate apprenticeships available than the whole of Scotland. It seems such an obvious opportunity. Why are we not doing more with it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Murdo Fraser

Okay. Thank you very much.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Murdo Fraser

That is very helpful, Susan. Thank you. Do any other witnesses have experience of graduate apprenticeships and want to add anything? Do not feel that you have to.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Murdo Fraser

I will follow that up with a question that is similar to the one that I asked James Withers.

For 20 or 30 years in Scotland, we have had a perennial debate about the number of people who go to university and whether that is appropriate or whether we need to encourage more people into vocational training, such as apprenticeships. I do not want to get into that today, because that would take us down a rabbit hole, but part of what the Government is proposing in its bill is shifting the funding for apprenticeships to the Scottish Funding Council. It is well documented that there is a crisis in university funding. In putting all the funding in one pot, is there a risk that some of the money that is currently spent on apprenticeships might end up being siphoned off to fill the black hole in higher education funding?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Murdo Fraser

Good morning, James. It is nice to see you again.

One thing that has struck me, both from the visits that the committee has made and from our wider engagement with business, is that we have major issues with skills shortages in Scotland, particularly in areas such as the green economy. We continually hear from employers that we do not have the throughput of people with the skills they need in science, technology, engineering and mathematics and in technical subjects. There is a huge black hole that will stymie our opportunity as a country to maximise those economic opportunities, and some of that comes back to the availability of apprenticeships.

I know that you do not want to talk about the funding issue per se, but what is your sense of where we are with the availability of apprenticeship places and the opportunity and demand? Some employers have been telling us that, when they advertise for apprentices, they get a huge volume of applications and they cannot take all the people who apply. There seems to be a mismatch between the number of apprenticeship places that are being offered and the opportunity and demand for them.