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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

I must confess that I am somewhat surprised by that. I understand that there are more than 80 AD plants in Scotland; we are bringing in regulations to cover the non-waste AD plants, but at this stage we do not know how many there are. Do we know that SEPA does know that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

But they are unregulated at the moment, so they will not necessarily be in contact with SEPA.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

Who does the oversight group report to? Who would make the decision on stop-go?

09:30  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

Sticking with the issue of storm overflow during dry weather, I would like some clarification. Do you have any evidence, as part of the analytical work that you have carried out, of storm overflows taking place during dry periods?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

That would be helpful, so that we understand it.

So, when Scottish Water disputes the allegation that it is illegally discharging CSOs during dry weather, that is wrong.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

Forgive me鈥擨 am a wee bit confused here, which is easily done sometimes. I am just trying to understand. Scottish Water says that it disputes that it has illegally discharged CSOs during dry weather. It has provided you with data, and from that data you have assessed that there are circumstances, numbering in the tens, in which CSOs have been discharged during dry weather, but we do not know whether or not that is illegal.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Michael Matheson

Did the CPT accept the modelling output?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Michael Matheson

That is helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Michael Matheson

That is helpful. There is no doubt in my mind that we are experiencing more intense local weather events than we have experienced historically. At times, such events overwhelm existing infrastructure, no matter how well maintained it is, because it is not able to cope with the intensity, so the need for climate adaptation is becoming more and more apparent here. Given the nature and intensity of such events and the frequency with which they are occurring, you are suggesting that greater climate adaptation through infrastructure planning will become more important.

You will have a good understanding of where the hotspots are in relation to existing infrastructure that is struggling to cope and is resulting in a negative impact on our environment. If Scottish Water, for example, knows such information, is there shared understanding between it and SEPA, as public bodies, of the key infrastructure investment that should be made to maximise mitigation of the risk of negative environmental impacts? Is that reflected in Scottish Water鈥檚 infrastructure investment plan? You probably cannot speak for Scottish Water, but do you have a single shared plan that addresses the environmental risks and deals with the infrastructure investment that is needed to mitigate risks?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Michael Matheson

It would be helpful to understand that. I understand that, from a regulatory point of view鈥攁nd you emphasised that SEPA has an advisory role as well鈥攊t is important to try to manage waste as close to source as possible, while reducing it as much as possible to fit in with the principles of the circular economy. We do not have sufficient capacity in particular areas of waste management, so we need to look at increasing that capacity in order to deal with more of our waste here. Further, in areas where we have no capacity at all, we have to look at developing capacity for that waste to be managed here. I am trying to get SEPA鈥檚 perspective and the advice that you give on that

I am trying to understand. I know that the issue does not all sit with you, as Zero Waste Scotland and others have an interest in it, but you work in partnership with them, as you mentioned. I am trying to get a picture from you鈥攖he regulator鈥攐f your advice and what we need to do to increase our capacity in waste management in Scotland. Are you able to provide that?

11:15