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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

You described a triangle in which there is alignment with the EU, alignment with the UK and Scottish regulations, too. I am again being provocative, but do you not have an advantage in that you can argue for alignment in some areas and for divergence in other areas? Does the triangle not enable you to pick and choose?

You make a particular argument about glyphosate. I do not want to get into the details of the pros and cons of that as an option. In a way, you are able to move around the different regulatory frameworks and position yourselves and your members. You can point to where there are high standards and where there is alignment, but you can also point out what aspects you do not agree with. Are there advantages to that, or are you still trying to get used to the landscape that you are in now, which is quite fluid, with the common frameworks not really working properly yet?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

That answer perhaps addresses the question about the 80 per cent of natural gas that will still need to be used within the gas grid for blending.

I invite Mr Dalhuijsen to comment, to give another perspective on things.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

Time is moving on. Mr Dalhuijsen, do you want to answer any of those points or speak about waste incinerators?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

It helps a little bit.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

Thank you. Back to you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

I have another follow-up question. The Government’s “Update to the Climate Change Plan 2018-2032: Securing a Green Recovery on a Path to Net Zero” discusses the deployment of CCS technology in respect of energy from waste incineration plants. There are numerous such plants in Scotland. Can you comment on the economics of retrofitting existing plants, and on whether CCS could be deployed effectively at that scale for future energy production from waste incineration plants?

I will go back to Professor Haszeldine on that question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

I want to ask a critical question about how we deploy CCS in a way that does not build in dependency on fossil fuels. We have heard comments from Erik Dalhuijsen about fossil hydrogen production and, related to that, there might be on-going dependence on natural gas if we are to use it for domestic heating. Where do we draw the line and refocus on the hard-to-abate sectors—for example, cement—without playing into enhanced oil recovery or fossil hydrogen production, within the economics of CCS? I put that to Professor Haszeldine.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

You talked about there being a demand of not 6 billion but 15 billion to 18 billion barrels, so I come back to my question: how much of that carbon could be captured under the Acorn project or future projects, and what would be the timescale for that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

I will ask Colin Pritchard about hydrogen. My understanding is that it will be a precious energy commodity that we will need to decarbonise the hard-to-abate sectors, such as steel. Is there a need to deploy a hydrogen hierarchy, whereby we prioritise the use of hydrogen for the hard-to-abate sectors and perhaps deprioritise the decarbonisation of the way that we heat our homes, or do we just need more of everything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Mark Ruskell

I know that time is short, convener, so I will hand back to you.