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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

How will that aim be achieved? Should the bill reflect the 2030 and 2045 targets or reference the international commitments? I am interested in how that should be reflected in the bill.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

It would be useful to have examples of where, practically, you see tension. The Government has said that the consent regime for grid infrastructure is problematic for EIAs. We have the UK Planning and Infrastructure Bill, a legislative consent memorandum for which has been considered by the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee this week.

Without going into the huge technicality around that, are the current systems fit for purpose? Is the overriding public interest test being applied? Are the tensions between net zero and wider protection of biodiversity being resolved in the existing system? I am interested in any reflections on environmental assessments, so pick out of that what you want.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are there any other reflections? I am particularly interested in the imperative reasons of overriding public interest—IROPI—test. Last week, a representative of the Chartered Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management gave an example of the test being applied in relation to a road between, I think, Mallaig and Fort William. Is the current system working well? What changes might we envisage ministers using the powers in the bill for?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you. Does Annie Breaden or Brendan Callaghan want to come in?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Can you say more about what you consider to be an effective trigger for a target in the bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Right. I am just trying to understand how that works. If you are a developer and you are bringing forward a wind farm project that is under the section 36 threshold, you would expect to do an environmental impact assessment, as the regulations require you to send that to the local authority. However, if you are over that threshold, you will have to engage eventually with the new system of environmental outcomes reports. Is that right? Will we have two systems, effectively?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I ask the cabinet secretary to reflect on the fact that it was not just the exclusion of glass that was required in the internal market act exemption; it was an alignment of the deposit value with a scheme in England that did not exist at the time. Was that not the real reason why the scheme could not go ahead at that time? It could have gone ahead without glass but not without an answer to that question, which was an unanswerable question back in June 2023. I assume that there is now certainty about what the deposit level will be in the other schemes that the Scottish scheme will have to align with.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Will EPR meet local authorities’ costs and enable them to invest in and expand glass recycling? Will a point come where it can only go so far in dealing with that line of waste?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am struggling a bit with that. It might be better for you to write to the committee with some examples of where that applies and where it does not apply. What I am trying to understand is whether the Government is moving away from the EIA system to a new system of environmental outcomes reports. Is that what you are doing? I see that you are shaking your head.