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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Does the example of Beauly to Denny not prove the point that the existing system has worked? I remember the early conversations around Beauly to Denny, when there were concerns about a special protection area for birds near Blackford. That resulted in the line being moved. Clearly, the habitats regulations and the EIA process had a bearing on the development of that project. Does the current system work for industrial development and for nature or are there irreconcilable tensions that require the whole system to be changed?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I have a quick follow-up. Should part 2 be enacted, what would be ESS’s role in looking at the adequacy of existing environmental assessment regulations and habitats regulations appraisals? You will have heard the previous panel making some bespoke cases for change or adjustments. Would ESS have a role in advising ministers on what you would consider to be appropriate changes under part 2?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Is that currently part of your work plan? Is it a priority at the moment?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thanks.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

It seems to have passed. Have any developers come to the Scottish Government saying that they would like to push ahead with a development and asking it to grant them a special development order or any other kind of permission that would allow the developers to do it as a trial?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Let us turn to an area where there is a regulatory gap because SEPA’s work applies only up to 3 nautical miles out. How will that regulatory gap be closed ahead of any planning applications that could come through for developments beyond 3 nautical miles?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

To go back to my original question, will the commencement of regulations to extend SEPA’s powers align with the decision on any planning application that is made under the regulations, should they be approved?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am curious about why the work has not been done already. Parliament has been considering the draft Environmental Authorisations (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2025. I suppose that, in an ideal world, those regulations would have extended SEPA’s powers and you would have been able to tell us today that the environmental regulations were in place and you now wanted to bring in a planning system. Instead, I am hearing that you are trying to apply a planning system beyond 3 nautical miles, and to make that live, but that environmental regulations are coming some way down the track, so people must hold off putting in applications until there is certainty. That feels quite disjointed.

I am not asking you, as an official, to comment on those choices, but it feels as though there was an opportunity to make the update and bring in a consistent system with the environmental authorisations amendment regulations.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

On the subject of targets, I would like to ask you about the topic areas that were chosen for targets and whether you think that those are adequate. I will go into a bit of detail here. NatureScot said in evidence that

“the targets will need to be set carefully to avoid the potential of diverting attention from wider biodiversity improvements.â€

Can you expand a little on what the concern is there?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Should the bill explicitly reflect the commitments that Scotland has signed up to in the global biodiversity framework? Should there be a 2030 target and a 2045 target in the bill, or does the bill implicitly deliver on that? I will bring in Chris Tuckett.