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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

Obviously, basic legal requirements are enforced by the commissioner. I get a steady stream of complaints about buses regularly failing to turn up, which, presumably, is something that the commissioner could enforce. However, now that we are in this space of how we improve bus services working in partnership and given the substantial amount of money that is going in, I am interested to hear more about how the Government can extend conditionality further and beyond just basic legal compliance with a timetable.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

Yes鈥攗nless other witnesses wish to offer insights.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

Going back to the deputy convener鈥檚 questions on the environmental court, the case for that and our lack of compliance with Aarhus, how do you see the debate moving forward? Lloyd, you mentioned, I think, that in the previous parliamentary session there was a round table on environmental governance that was chaired by Campbell Gemmell. It feels like we have been going around the issue for some time. If you see a way forward, what does it look like? There have been calls in evidence for a further governance review. I am interested in how that would be different from what we have seen coming through and what the Government has already conducted.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

All done.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

It has been an interesting evidence session. I was just reflecting on the number of constituents who write to me every week with concerns about the quality of services. They write not just about whether the services are running but about whether they are running on time or whether buses are breaking down.

I want to ask you about the conditionality applied to public sector funding. Jenny Gilruth, as a previous Minister for Transport, announced a review of bus sector funding, part of which was going to be a consideration of what conditionality could be applied. Obviously, we have the Traffic Commissioner for Scotland, who is able to hold some of the bus companies to account, but I am interested in hearing about the work that the Government has done to make the substantial investment in the bus sector every year conditional on some basic standards of service and improvements going forward.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

Do you think that conditionality needs to go beyond fair work to actual quality of delivery of services?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

I was going to ask a series of questions about individual cases, but the evidence that we have just heard has been useful in that regard.

I have two follow-up questions. Is there work that ESS has done recently in which you have batched together concerns that have come from individual cases, then made recommendations about changing systemic approaches to regulation? An example might be acoustic deterrent devices. Shivali Fifield mentioned the River Almond, where the system has perhaps not worked well. Are there areas where ESS has worked well by collating individual cases and pointing to systemic change?

My other question is for SEPA. I was struck by your submission, in which you talk about an increase in the number of complaints. In your view, is there an expectation among complainers that ESS will pick up a batch of complaints that come to SEPA and work to address systemic issues? Could you elaborate a little on that? I will be a bit startled if SEPA is saying that it is concerned about the number of complaints and how it will resource the work, and that that is a problem with the system, rather than it addressing its practice. I am interested to hear comments on both those issues.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

Okay. I appreciate that, and I appreciate your comments about the process.

Are there any other reflections on individual complaints and how they have been effectively addressed by ESS to drive systemic change, beyond the example of the River Almond?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Mark Ruskell

I was interested in the minister鈥檚 comments about the community bus fund. A modest amount of money has been allocated to it. Which local authorities are taking up the opportunity, particularly on the revenue side, to work on a business case and look at the options for franchising and municipalisation? Are they predominantly rural local authorities or urban local authorities? It would be useful to get a sense of how local authorities are responding to the money that is available and what work they are doing.