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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

What can we do to try to improve things? What can we do to ensure that committees have greater influence on the Government鈥檚 budgetary deliberations? Those questions are for both of you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

We really appreciate the OBR taking the time and trouble to come up to Edinburgh. It is one of the highlights of our year, so I thank you very much and we hope to see you again.

I will call a five-minute break before we hear from our next witnesses.

10:47 Meeting suspended.  

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

For the second part of today鈥檚 evidence session on the Scottish budget, I welcome Professor Mairi Spowage, director of the Fraser of Allander Institute, and Professor David Bell, a professor of economics at the University of Stirling.

As with the previous panel, we will move straight to questions, the first of which is about your magnificent report, David. It covers so many bases that we will probably keep you here until it gets dark, which is your own fault for including so much good-quality information.

Regarding the influence and formulation of Scottish Government budget proposals, you say that

鈥淭he consensus from the responses to this inquiry is that external influence on the Scottish Government鈥檚 budget process is limited鈥

and that

鈥淭he year-round approach is problematic, given other pressure on committees.鈥

I know that you have looked into a number of committees in some detail. Based on your analysis, is that because of a lack of time, because the budget process is not a priority for those committees or because they feel that the work that they would do would not have an impact on Scottish Government policy?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

How can that lag be reduced? After all, 18 months is a long time in the business that you are in.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Obviously, there is a lag in the Scottish outturn data. Given that these improvements were brought in in 2022, we will probably see more progress in that respect as the years pass, but how does that lag compare with what we see in the rest of the UK?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much. My colleagues and I appreciate your time, the quality of your evidence and the work that you put into it.

That concludes the public part of our meeting. We will have a two-minute break to allow the witnesses to leave the room.

12:35 Meeting continued in private until 12:49.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is scandalous.[Laughter.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

So, it is maybe three years for resource and five years for capital?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Is there anything else that either of you wants to say before we wind up?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There have been improvements in the process, but it always seems to me as though the committee is having to push a rock uphill to achieve those things. We are never pushing against an open door.

I have a final question about participation. You touched on a citizens assembly鈥攖o my mind, the Parliament is a citizens assembly and we are elected. Back-bench 成人快手 are not consulted on anything and they do not participate in budget discussions. Matters are discussed with party spokespeople, but, although a back-bench MSP on the Education, Children and Young People Committee might get involved in the educational aspects of the budget, they will not be consulted about housing, the national health service or any other area. We might have to think more about that. If we want 成人快手 to have a broader understanding of finance, it does not really help for them to operate in little boxes. I think that there has to be more involvement.

It does not seem to make a difference who is in power, whether it is at Westminster or in Scotland鈥攖here is the same philosophy that back benchers are there to support the Government and that it is for the Government to do things from the top down. Do you want to comment on any of that?