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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much for that. Your evidence has been really helpful, Liz. As you know, the committee will deliberate on the matter in due course.

We will have a five-minute suspension so that we can change over the witnesses and give colleagues a natural break.

10:50 Meeting suspended.  

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Sorry, I was being a bit sneaky there. I just thought that I would try to catch you unawares, early on.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Great minds think alike.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you. I will open questions to colleagues around the table, beginning with Craig Hoy.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

You could always have an exhibition outside the chamber at the bottom of the members鈥 block. It does not cost anything.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I know. That is because it does not cost anything. [Laughter.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much for giving evidence today. That concludes the public part of our deliberation, and we will have a two-minute break to allow our official report and broadcasting colleagues, and witnesses, to leave.

12:07 Meeting continued in private until 12:19.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that comprehensive opening statement. I can more or less wind up at that, I suppose, given that you have answered most of the questions.

Everyone on the committee appreciates your passionate commitment to the bill and the topic that it covers, so we will focus specifically on financial matters鈥攚hich, according to the submissions that we have received, as you will be well aware, are significant.

Paragraph 6 of the financial memorandum says:

鈥淭he Member acknowledges that what mechanism the Scottish Ministers use to allocate funding required for this Bill is a matter for them.鈥

In addition, paragraph 11 says:

鈥淯nder this Bill, the responsibility for funding for the provision of residential outdoor education rests with the Scottish Government, thus ensuring blanket provision鈥.

You mentioned PEF in your opening statement, but what do you believe would be the most appropriate vehicle for the Scottish Government to fund the provisions of the bill, and do you believe that that funding should be ring fenced?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

You mentioned such a trust in your opening statement. How would that work? For example, would the Government have to put in some seed money to draw in additional funding from elsewhere, in order to make the trust work?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Pupil equity funding is important, but the point about it is that teachers can decide whether to spend it on outdoor education, books, computers, additional staff or whatever. Is it not therefore a rather unreliable source? You want outdoor education to be baked into legislation so that it is mandatory that every pupil gets to go at some point. Is the approach of relying on PEF to deliver that not a bit fragile? It would surely only ever be additional funding rather than core funding.