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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I will bring in Claire Mack.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Time is marching on. Normally, I let these sessions run on, as colleagues will know, but the following session on the financial memorandum to the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill is likely to be heavy, so I do not want to run on too long. I will take Alastair Florence and then, afterwards, I will allow all our guests to have a final say on any point that they wish to make that they feel has not been covered or has not been emphasised enough. I am not necessarily expecting this, but if people are seeking additional funding for their sector, it would be helpful if they say where in the Scottish budget it should come from. That is always the most difficult one.

The last person to make a point will be Gordon McGuinness. You were the first to kick off, Gordon, so you will have the final word.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Last but not least, I turn to Gordon McGuinness.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. I am sure that others will touch on the numbers, but the financial memorandum’s estimate of 50 to 100 people by year 3, compared with 300 people in six months in Queensland seems like a big anomaly. I will move on from that.

The Scottish Partnership for Palliative Care has said that

“The Bill doesn’t even place a duty on NHS Boards to provide ADâ€

and goes on to say that

“The Financial Memorandum states that ‘only around 10% of people’ die in hospital which is factually incorrect—in 2023 46% of people died in a hospital.â€

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Reprioritisation in each budget is an issue—I think that everyone would accept that. Andy Witty talked about that issue in relation to the college sector. The size of individual budgets is also an issue, which Andy raised specifically. The Scottish Government has set out spending priorities that are worth more than £63 billion. Do the witnesses have any views on where we should move money within the budget? If any of you think that money would be better moved from A to B, please let me know.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Your requests appear to me to be relatively modest. For example, you say that an

“investment of £66M over 5 years, a scale similar to other UK strategic centres such as the Royce, Turing, or Rosalind Franklin institutes, would establish a global-scale hub able to compete with the best centres in the world.â€

You go on to say that analysis by UK Research and Innovation

“of prior critical mass investments in manufacturing research estimated that £63 is generated for the wider economy for every £1 spent.â€

You continue:

“On this basis a total ROIâ€â€”

return on investment—

“of over £4Bn of economic return could be realised from the proposed institute investment.â€

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

You need lab space, do you not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

One of the Government’s objectives is to triple the number of planners—if they can find people to actually do it.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I understand what you say about neighbours. I think that England, Ireland and the Netherlands are among our biggest trading partners, if not the three biggest.

After letting in Alistair McInroy with a brief supplementary point, I will let in Andy Witty, who has been very patient for the past 15 or 20 minutes.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Kenneth Gibson

That is what I was going to move on to.