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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, I was impressed that your report on NHS Highland came in for less than £150,000, and it seems to have been successful.

In your responses to our call for views, you gave quite a substantive response on culture, talking about

“a likely consequence of a cultureâ€

in which the people who want the inquiry want

“to look back to find fault or allocate blame ... rather than to look forward and to learn lessons about what worked ... and how things could be done differently or better in the future.â€

In the past 24 hours, we have seen the news from south of the border about grooming and a specific inquiry. In Scotland, there is a clamour for another public inquiry to be held into reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete that makes it clear that they want a statutory, or judge-led, inquiry, which will take a considerable period of time, I imagine. Is there any way that we can turn the Titanic away from the iceberg and persuade the public, for example, or, indeed, ministers who instruct public inquiries that, although there will always be a role for public inquiries, there is a better or different way forward?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Exactly. We do not have years to rumble on; we get four or six-minute speeches.

I have one further question. We have seen a plethora of public inquiries, with the number increasing. The issue is not just time and cost but the overall number. Should the bar for the establishment of a public inquiry be raised? The press and individual organisations may be clamouring for inquiries, but should there be set criteria to meet before a public inquiry can be triggered, rather than a decision being made by a minister when the fourth estate and others call for it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

People want a Ferrari rather than a Ford, if you know what I mean.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

About anything specific?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You have said that implementation is not for the inquiry.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is all right. You are not the first to use it.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, rather than a big-bang effect at the end.

I open the session to colleagues around the table.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That was the last item on our public agenda. We will go into private session after a break, to allow our witnesses and staff from broadcasting and the Official Report to leave.

11:16 Meeting continued in public until 11:40.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There are a lot more inquiries now than there were 20 or 30 years ago, but there is no reason that I can discern as to why that is the case. Ministers may be more likely to trigger inquiries than they were before, but we sometimes wonder why there was an inquiry into X when it would have been just as easy to have an inquiry into Y. The specific reasons why one inquiry happened when another did not can be rather obscure.