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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

In every debate, we hear more suggestions from your colleagues about the need for additional funding.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, but you have said:

“The balance is held to fund any changes in demand led schemes and devolved tax receipts”.

It seems to me that there is almost a contingency beyond that contingency.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The £6.9 million is not only for the 48 places or I would be able to do that; we just know that it includes the cost of those places. I am wondering what the cost is, so that we can see where the differentials are. Obviously, there is a high cost in the public sector in the Scottish Prison Service. If it is less expensive in the private sector, I can understand the Government looking to use that more in the future, rather than releasing prisoners. However, if it is more expensive—I suspect that it is, but I do not know, because we do not have the figures—that is something that you would not want to do unless you felt forced to do it.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I appreciate that, but, in that particular area of social security, there is huge variation. Obviously, there are concerns that there could be significant underestimates. Adult disability payments are another area where there are concerns. What is the Scottish Government doing to ensure that its forecasting and the data that it applies are more accurate, so that we do not have a situation in which we have such readjustments either later in the year or early next year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I appreciate that. Thank you.

We all want to see minimal changes when we go through the autumn and spring budget revisions. Everyone wants the budget that is ultimately signed off a year later to reflect the one that was agreed to by Parliament the previous February.

I notice that £6.9 million of additional funding is going towards the Scottish Prison Service’s public-private partnership. That includes increasing the purchase of up to an additional 48 prison places at HMP Addiewell to help manage the large prison population. How much does it cost to buy a prison place for a year from the private sector?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Apologies—I thought that you said £4 million. That is nearly 49 million quid, then.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Right, okay. Will that be a one-off cost?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is not confirmed as yet, then.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I was going to read the motion out and you were just going to say, “Moved.”

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I thank the minister and his officials for their evidence and colleagues for their questions. We will publish a short report for the Parliament setting out our decision on the regulations in due course—that is my favourite phrase.

As that was the last item on our agenda, I close the meeting.

Meeting closed at 11:14.