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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Ms Rowand, do you have any understanding of why that was the case? Have you tried to find out from the Scottish Government why that funding arrived so late? I would have thought that, with something so essential, you would be champing at the bit to obtain those resources.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning and welcome to the eighth meeting in 2022 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. The only item on the agenda is two evidence-taking sessions for our inquiry into the Government’s resource spending review framework. The evidence that we gather will inform our response to the Scottish Government’s consultation.

First, we will hear from Mirren Kelly, chief officer, local government finance, Convention of Scottish Local Authorities—who I am delighted to say is attending in person—and, attending virtually, Eileen Rowand, executive director, finance and corporate services, Fife Council and Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountability directors of finance. I welcome them to the meeting and thank them for their written submissions.

I understand that the witnesses have no opening statements to make, so I will move straight to questions, which will obviously relate to the submissions.

I note that, with regard to spending, COSLA’s submission says:

“With employability funding especially this has been notified late in the financial year and limited to spending by 31st March.”

Clearly, COSLA is frustrated at getting notification of resources late in the financial year, but how much of that is actually within the Scottish Government’s control? Are Barnett consequentials the reason for the late notification? Is it a combination of the two things?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Kenneth Gibson

We are now at the end of February and the fund is going to start from April, but the Scottish Government still says that there has been no consultation or meaningful engagement. That is echoed by other devolved Administrations. Why would they be saying that? If there is going to be constructive engagement, why has it been left so late—to the 12th hour, if you like?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Kenneth Gibson

My understanding is that the ÂŁ800 million covers all three devolved nations, so it is ÂŁ450 million for Scotland.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Again, I find your answer very positive, but my concern is that, up to today, with the UK shared prosperity fund about to launch in a matter of weeks, those organisations have not been kept up to date. Obviously, they have to be able to fund projects and they worry that there will be gaps and breaks in funding. Can you assure us that that will not happen?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Kenneth Gibson

A local authority chief executive brought a question to me. He is keen to know how you anticipate levelling up will influence other local authority investment decisions, outwith the levelling up funds and the UK shared prosperity fund.

Concerns have been expressed that, unless levelling up becomes a cross-cutting policy, regional inequality will not be addressed. If two or three UK sites are deemed suitable for a specific type of investment—I was going to give an example, but I will not mention it just now unless you specifically ask me to—what weighting will levelling up carry? For example, will a priority 1 area always be approved over a priority 2 area? In the first disbursement of levelling up funds, five of the eight projects were in priority 1 areas and three were not. How will we ensure that the money goes to where it is most needed?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Kenneth Gibson

If only you were a Highlands and Islands MSP, Ross, that would have been a great victory for you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. In today’s discussions, you have touched on things such as education, ferries and local government, all of which are devolved. As you will know, education, along with the legal system, was part of the Act of Union 1707, which preserved Scotland’s unique education system. However, we know that, for example, a £559 million adult numeracy fund will be managed by the Department for Education across the United Kingdom. Is that a first since 1707? Maybe I am just not aware of it, but my understanding was that, on such matters, you might allocate funding to Scotland, but the decision would be made here in Scotland.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Kenneth Gibson

It is about the funding being managed by the UK Government, not the funding being allocated.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much for that. That is very positive.

We have 30 seconds of our 90 minutes left. As I said I would a minute or two ago, secretary of state, I will allow you to make any further points that you wish to make before we conclude the meeting.