The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Okay. I will now open out the session to Daniel Johnson, first of all, to be followed by Ross Greer.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
I prefer a dodecahedron to a circular cycle. What you are really saying is that the system is three dimensional, but it is portrayed as being two dimensional.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
That said, you have also made a number of criticisms of the UK Government, which we will not go into here. I note, though, the issue of diseconomies of scale with regard to decision making and your comment that, because of their relative size, Wales and Scotland perhaps have a greater opportunity than the UK to work in partnership with stakeholders.
I have one final question before I open things up. In the last sentence of your report, just before the references, you talk about
“how the Scottish Government could change in relation to what is feasible rather”
than
“restate the value of simplified models that do not exist.”
What would you change in that respect?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
I thank Professor Cairney for his evidence this morning and his excellent report.
Meeting closed at 10:58.Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Thanks for that very positive ending to your opening remarks. [Laughter.]
Your report brings into sharp focus the monumental nature of the inquiry that we have decided to embark on, because we could move in so many different directions. There is a clear difference between political rhetoric and reality. I mean that in the most positive sense. For a number of reasons—one relates to resources—politicians from all political parties are not always able to deliver on the ground what they seek to achieve.
We are focusing on how decisions can be made more effectively. When we speak to a number of civil servants from different departments next week, it will be interesting to find out whether there is a coherent decision-making structure in the Scottish Government, or whether some parts of the structure make decisions significantly differently from others. What is your experience of that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
John Mason and I were members of the Finance Committee between 2011 and 2016, and we did a lot of work on prevention. There were a number of frustrations at that time. First, we can all identify good approaches to preventative spending, but it is extremely difficult to get the resources to disengage from delivery models that are not working particularly effectively. Secondly, everything that we do is, of course, within the hothouse of the chamber and the media. Everything is measured by the number of nurses, the number of police officers and so on rather than necessarily by outcomes at the end, although there are attempts across the board to have more focus on those outcomes.
We understand that there is no perfect delivery system. In your introduction, you say that Governments can aspire to do wonderful things but that there are innate contradictions. For example, involving a number of partners in the decision-making process can conflict with strong central decision making and a decisive ethos so that people outside can see where their Government is heading and what it plans to do.
10:00I suppose that it is about trying to look at the least imperfect system. In the report, you look at New Zealand in some detail including, for example, how New Zealand might own some of its failures of policy—although I think that the Opposition will do its best to point that out without any Scottish Government involvement being necessary. You also point to some of the successes in Wales and what is being done there.
Although they are in the report, would you talk to a couple of those examples for the record? Also, can you go beyond New Zealand and Wales to talk about where else we could look at. There are international models of delivery. Are there other areas that you think the Scottish Government—and, indeed, this committee—could look at?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
“I have given up” is not a good start.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Yes—I, too, am restraining myself from coming in on the back of that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
It looks like a Cy Twombly drawing—if it was, it would be worth around $70 million.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Kenneth Gibson
I wonder how that would work here, in reality. It depends on who is doing the scoring.