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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Natalist policies have increased the birth rate in Denmark, but not to replacement level. The only developed countries with birth rates above replacement level are the Faroes and Israel, as far as I am aware. Incidentally, Hungary has said that any woman who has two children before the age of 30 will not have to pay tax for the rest of her life. Who knows whether that will have an impact?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, but there is an element of rebalancing later on in the forecasts.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I was going to ask about that next, but you have answered my question. You say that

“Projected Scottish devolved public spending is unsustainableâ€

because

“it will exceed funding by 1.2 per cent on average over the projection. Accounting for a possible UK Government response to its fiscal sustainability pressures widens this gap to an average of 11.1 per cent.â€

Could you talk us through that, because it is a fundamental issue that you touch on several times in the report?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much for your evidence. I will make sure that I speak to Kate Forbes and demand that she produce a Gaelic translation of the budget next year, if she is not too busy.

We will have a five-minute break before the next session.

10:40 Meeting suspended.  

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much. Are there any final points that you feel we have not touched on or that you would like to make to the committee before we wind up the session?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Are there any examples that the Scottish Government can copy? Last year, we visited Estonia and looked at the incredible X-Road system, for example. Is there anything that you would recommend?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning, and welcome to the 14th meeting in 2025 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. We have received apologies from Michael Marra, who will not be attending the committee this morning. Ross Greer will participate, but he will not arrive before 10:15, so unfortunately he might not participate in this item.

The first item on our agenda is an evidence session on the Scottish budget process in practice. We are joined this morning by Stephen Boyle, Auditor General for Scotland, and Fiona Diggle, audit manager at Audit Scotland. I welcome you both to the meeting and I invite the Auditor General to make a brief opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I think that everybody wants the populace to be more engaged. We would like, on occasion, the people who gather in the public gallery at meetings of this committee to be more than just the people who will be giving evidence next or a couple of students who wander in and, five minutes later, decide to wander out again. We would all like more engagement, but it is about being realistic, practical and pragmatic.

The first group of people who need to be au fait with all the documents are probably elected representatives in this Parliament, in the UK Parliament and in local authorities, as well as the people in the third sector who deal with these issues. Sometimes, it can be quite unrealistic to talk about public buy-in, because people have priorities other than to look through a 140-page draft budget document and a 90-page sustainability document. Life really is too short for most people to do that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

In what way? How can you make the budget document more accessible?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is just an empty statement, is it not? It means nothing unless the recommendations say what the languages are, how many there should be and what the cost implications would be. I find it frustrating when I read things like that, to be honest. It is almost a throwaway line rather than a serious policy intent.