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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

To stop them moving elsewhere?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

There was a bit of a backlash in my area when it was suggested that parking be priced, and the council changed its policy on it.

One of the things that came out of the previous session was road pricing. How do you do that without impacting adversely on rural communities? Would you have road pricing only in urban areas or on motorways, for example? How would you get round that? Many rural communities in Scotland are fragile, and people in them do not really have any alternative to cars. You can talk about public transport all you like, but it will not make much odds to some people whether you increase the bus service from twice to three or four times a day. The car will remain essential for a number of people in our communities.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

That was a nice cheery comment. [Laughter.]

11:15  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

There is a cut of about 10 per cent for the coming financial year.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

I am going to conclude by allowing witnesses to make one final comment on any issue that they feel we have not touched on but should have, or on something else that they want to reinforce with regard to what has been said.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Ruth Boyle, John Mason is saying that we should cut back on some areas of expenditure. What areas would you suggest?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Parity of esteem is really important and I certainly endorse your comments on that. When you gave evidence two years ago, John Mason pointed out that Glasgow University had cash assets of, I think, 拢770 million. Of course, you pointed out that not all universities were as well off as Glasgow was at that time. I do not know whether it is still as well off鈥擩ohn Mason has probably got a better grip on those accounts than I have. Surely, the university sector, at least in Glasgow, has plenty of money to invest, without seeking additional resources from a public sector, which, as we have heard, is already constrained.

12:15  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Who do you want to answer that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

It is helpful to an extent, because it helps us to focus. A number of people, including the economists who were here before, have talked about three-year or five-year funding. The Scottish Government is not funded beyond year to year, but there is still the question whether we should plan. I was on the Social Justice Committee during the 1999 to 2003 parliamentary session. We produced a detailed report on why we should do exactly what you have suggested and, 20-odd years later, we are still taking about it. It is a fundamental point, although you have not put pounds, shillings and pence on it.

Ruth, you have some statistical analysis in your report and you have produced some wonderful graphs. Talk us through, in a few short minutes, exactly what additional resources we should provide, Given all the caveats about wealth tax鈥攖hat it cannot be implemented for the next financial year and so on, according to the economists鈥攚hat can we do in the next year in order to deliver the agenda that you, the IPPR and others would like?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

The last person to comment will be Adam Stachura. Each of our guests will then have one minute to wind up and to mention anything that has not been covered so far.