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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate legislation

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Would the Scottish Government consider a couple of areas for which exemptions have been suggested:

“investment in empty and new build properties”

in order to increase the supply of housing stock, and

“properties which are being purchased with a sitting tenant”?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate legislation

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Everyone is aware of rising interest rates and prevailing economic conditions, but the issue that is being raised here—the concern that has been expressed from the market—is that the Scottish Government is not working to mitigate that situation but is going in the opposite direction. For example, Savills has said that the accumulation of measures has reduced the supply of rented accommodation in Scotland such that 29 per cent fewer properties are listed for rent in 2022, as compared with 2016. That is the start of a downward slope, for which no incentive seems to be in place to reverse.

The SPF said that, following the measures, the tax on a home priced at £188,000 would be £12,140, whereas it was £8,380 before the rate change was implemented. In England, it would be £5,640, so the tax in Scotland would be more than double that in England, which could discourage investment in new property in Scotland.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate legislation

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. So, basically, the Scottish Government’s contention is that the money is important for investing in our health service and other front-line services, and you do not feel that there will be a detrimental effect on the housing sector, whether socially or privately rented.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate legislation

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Everyone is keen to ask questions. Michelle Thomson will be first, followed by Daniel Johnson.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

It is not a criticism of the SPCB. This is a public meeting, and it is important for people to be able to understand where their money is going.

The other significant point is that the budget of every one of the commissioners and ombudsmen is increasing by more than the increase that you have bid for for the entire Parliament. You are bidding for a 4.8 per cent increase from £128 million to £134.2 million, but every commissioner and ombudsman is seeking to increase their budget by more than that, with the average increase being 8.1 per cent. If we compare that with areas in the draft budget such as justice, transport, local government or wherever, we could argue that the budgets of the office-holders are increasing by more than the budgets of all those front-line services. It is therefore important to put on the public record why that is happening.

The other one that stands out is the Scottish Commission for Human Rights, which has also had a significant increase of 22 per cent. Has there been a big deterioration in human rights in Scotland in the past year, or is it just that the commission is dotting more i’s and crossing more t’s? What is the situation there?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

That is absolutely fine. It is just that, if the budget is £37 million and the submission says that that is “including use of contractors”, we anticipate that it will be a lot more than £4,000. It might have been easier just to have said, “including £4,000 for contractors”. That would have saved me having to ask you that question.

In 2022-23, the staffing baseline was increased by £2.7 million. We are told in the submission that that was to help to deliver strategic priorities, which are listed. One of them is to

“enable enhanced public engagement and participation in committee work”.

Has that happened and how many staff have been allocated to it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Do you mean scrutiny of the post-Brexit constitutional arrangements?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

John Mason is looking at me with doe eyes, with that appeal. [Laughter.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

We are all chatting about why that is costing £189,000, given that all the facilities are already here. The offices are here, and the staff, technology and desks are here.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Kenneth Gibson

I thought that that was finished.