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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You were saying earlier that it has to be completed in two years and that is best practice. You aim for two years but, if it goes beyond that, that is the situation, although they must give good reasons for doing so.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

What is the public perception of royal commissions in Australia? Do people have a lot of confidence in them? We understand that the public in Sweden have confidence in the equivalent processes there, which seem to be relatively short, sharp and inexpensive compared with the ones that we have just discussed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

No. [Laughter.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Welcome to the 28th meeting in 2025 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. Ross Greer sends his apologies and will join us when he can.

The first item on our agenda is to take evidence from two panels of witnesses on the cost effectiveness of Scottish public inquiries, looking specifically at international examples and comparisons. I am delighted to say that, for our first panel, we are joined remotely by Professor Carl Dahlström, professor of political science, University of Gothenburg, Sweden; and Dr Scott Prasser, a public policy consultant and commentator from Australia. I welcome you both to the meeting and thank you for taking the time to speak to the committee about your experience and knowledge of public inquiries in your jurisdictions. We will move straight to questions.

Good morning to you, Professor Dahlström. I note that, in your report “Public inquiries in Sweden and Norwayâ€, you say that public inquiries are initiated by the Swedish Cabinet by issuing a commission directive. You say:

“This outlines the inquiry’s terms of reference, specifies the type of inquiry to be held, identifies the issue to be investigated, and sets a closing date.â€

Are those terms generally stuck to?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that.

One issue that we have, and which I will go into a wee bit more in a moment, is that there seem to be no cost controls or time limits on our inquiries. It is causing great concern. For example, one inquiry—the Sheku Bayoh inquiry—has been going for six years now; it has cost at least £51 million so far, with no end in sight. In fact, the judge chairing that inquiry resigned just last week. In England, we are having difficulties with the grooming inquiry, which has cost £186 million so far and is also having difficulty with chairs resigning et cetera. Therefore, I am interested in finding out how you in Sweden manage to ensure that inquiries are not only timeous and completed at a relatively modest cost, it seems, but still seem to be widely appreciated and accepted by the general public.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

We have heard from a number of witnesses that interim reports from inquiries would be helpful, not least to ensure that people do not wait until the end of an inquiry to implement any improvements. Some witnesses who have been the subject of inquiries—or whose organisations have—have said that they work to improve things as they as they go along.

Looking both at the New Zealand experience and approach to public inquiries and at Scotland and the UK, what advantages, if any, does the New Zealand system have that we could benefit or learn from?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Generally, are recommendations in New Zealand implemented timeously, or is it very much a mixed bag?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Cheery as always, John. [Laughter.]

I want to follow up on a point that Liz Smith made about judge-led inquiries. An interesting point that came out of the previous evidence session was that, in Australia, the judges are retired. Here in Scotland, they are not retired, generally speaking, and, as a result, 10 per cent of our judges are involved in public inquiries, which means that trials and so on are delayed. That has an impact on the justice system and, indeed, on justice for people who are involved in the trials, including victims and relatives. I wonder whether you think that we should adopt that approach for our inquiries. Should judges, assuming that they are available, be retired or should they be serving judges?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you. Professor Dahlström, do you want to come in?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much for that. I will move on now to other colleagues.