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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Of course it is. I think that we have already said that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

I think that the issue is the Government’s survivability if it were to implement this across the board, given the ferocious onslaught that would come from all sides. That is just the political reality. In my view, the economic reality is different from the political reality. I think that we would all agree with the economic reality.

David, my last question is on transparency with regard to mitigations. The Scottish Government mitigates a lot of UK taxes; in fact, some of the witnesses who will follow this session are suggesting yet more areas where the UK Government has reduced expenditure or where more expenditure should be given. What do you think that we should do to make the mitigations more transparent?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

I am sorry—I said “David”, and you are both called David. I forgot—apologies. There is a plethora of Davids in the economics world.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Okay.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

The Scottish Government specifically talked about freeports being different from green ports, so why is it not trying to give itself a competitive advantage by making the period seven or nine years? The Government has put a number of strictures on green freeports, which one might say makes them less competitive, albeit that there are some businesses that one might not necessarily want to attract in the first place. If the Government is looking for Scottish green ports to be a success, why not do something different from what the UK is doing? Are you being prevented from doing that, or is it a Scottish Government decision?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

That is very helpful. However, you quoted three definitions, and it would be good if we could boil things down to one specific definition, because, if we do not do that, it leaves room for ambiguity, which we want to reduce as we move forward.

Another issue that came up was the timescale that will be available for investors. Unite the union and David Melhuish from the Scottish Property Federation felt that five years was not long enough. Unite said that the period should be as long as possible, and David Melhuish said that it can take up to nine years for investments to come through. If we want to ensure that green ports are impactful as early as possible and that they attract as much investment as possible, is the Scottish Government thinking of extending the period beyond five years? What is the logic behind choosing five years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Indeed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

The question is, that motion S6M-09584 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

One of the conclusions that came from the committee’s meeting on 23 May was that efficiencies made as part of managing budgets are not a genuine reform. I am sure that you would agree with that. What role do efficiencies such as sharing data or making use of artificial intelligence and digital technologies play?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you. That concludes the committee’s questions.

Item 2 is formal consideration of the motion on the instrument. I invite the minister to move motion S6M-09584.

Motion moved,

That the Finance and Public Administration Committee recommends that the Land and Buildings Transaction Tax (Green Freeports Relief) (Scotland) Order 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Tom Arthur]