The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of ˿ and committees will automatically update to show only the ˿ and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of ˿ and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of ˿ and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
I thank all our guests. I will allow them to leave and we will then have a short five-minute private session. We will put most of our private work programme to one side and discuss two issues very quickly, seeing as time is marching on.
12:47 Meeting continued in private until 12:54.Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Yes—they start to lose it at £50,000.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
That first figure is assuming no behavioural impact, is it?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Yes, because of the message that is being sent.
In your submission, you have said:
“tax increases are likely to be unpopular and possibly counter productive and ... funding reductions to other spending priorities are likely to be valued more by the electorate than the gains resulting from the introduction of the new policy—this is so-called ‘loss aversion’”.
I find that quite interesting. I have talked about that a number of times in committee with regard to council tax reform: the people who gain will just shrug their shoulders, but the people who lose will be less than chuffed. In fact, the consultation on council tax closes tomorrow, and no one has contacted me to say, “This is great”, but I have had plenty of people tell me that they are not too chuffed about it. Perhaps you can say something about that, Professor Bell, and then I will let João Sousa in.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Thanks.
Professor Heald, you have said:
“budget documentation should set out clearly the additional cost of ‘above-parity’ expenditure and the reduced costs from ‘below-parity’ expenditure.”
Would you like to touch on that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
However, what the economists have said is that, if you implement some of these policies, you will not get any more money, because people will simply avoid it, work less hard or leave Scotland. For example, they said that, when the top rate went up by 1p in the pound last year, 90 per cent of that revenue was lost through behavioural change. Someone who works five days a week might say, “Do you know what? I am just going to work four days a week because I am not going to lose all that money to tax. Why should I work for that?” It is one thing to say that, if we do X, we will raise an extra £500 million or whatever in tax, but if we lose 90 per cent of that or possibly end up losing £600 million in tax because we have implemented that change, it does not deliver the changes that you and, I am sure, everybody really want to see. Everybody wants to tackle poverty, create better-paid jobs and have more money for the health service, but how do we realistically fund that when the impact of behavioural change is so fundamental to doing that? You can raise tax as much as you like, but if the money goes elsewhere, how do you deliver?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
John Mason is not asking a question to anyone specifically—is that right, John? You are just looking for people to respond.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
I will bring Adam Stachura.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
I was talking to an economics professor about the number of people who are economically inactive. That includes students, who are not unemployed, despite what the Daily Mail said on its front page a week or so ago. He suggested that Scotland could do as well with a three-year degree what we do with a four-year degree, given that there are three-year degrees south of the border. I thought that that was an interesting suggestion to at least look at. How do you feel about that? What would the impact of that be on the cost base of the university and so on? Would it free up resources? It would certainly mean that people would leave university a year earlier and contribute to the workforce a year earlier.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
You will get your minute after this, by the way.