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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

The whole purpose of this inquiry is to try to present a report to the Scottish Government in which we say, “These are the priorities that the Government should take forward in the next financial year.” We know that, at this stage, there is a £1 billion funding gap and that finances are challenging. It is very easy for witnesses to come along and say, “You should spend more money in our sector.” We have already had that from all sectors, but it is simply not possible unless we raise taxation very significantly—which, frankly, other witnesses have suggested that we do.

What kind of additional reliefs are we talking about? I think that the latest figure for rates relief is ÂŁ693 million. How could that be changed or increased, and how could any change or increase be funded to deliver more for the hospitality sector in Scotland?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

I think that some of the witnesses in the next panel will touch on that.

João—we started with you and we will finish with you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

It is important that we do not compare apples with oranges. That was an important point.

I thank our witnesses very much. You have given us lots of food for thought for the second panel and beyond. We will have a break now.

11:17 Meeting suspended.  

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

To stop them moving elsewhere?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

There was a bit of a backlash in my area when it was suggested that parking be priced, and the council changed its policy on it.

One of the things that came out of the previous session was road pricing. How do you do that without impacting adversely on rural communities? Would you have road pricing only in urban areas or on motorways, for example? How would you get round that? Many rural communities in Scotland are fragile, and people in them do not really have any alternative to cars. You can talk about public transport all you like, but it will not make much odds to some people whether you increase the bus service from twice to three or four times a day. The car will remain essential for a number of people in our communities.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

That was a nice cheery comment. [Laughter.]

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

There is a cut of about 10 per cent for the coming financial year.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

I am going to conclude by allowing witnesses to make one final comment on any issue that they feel we have not touched on but should have, or on something else that they want to reinforce with regard to what has been said.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Ruth Boyle, John Mason is saying that we should cut back on some areas of expenditure. What areas would you suggest?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Parity of esteem is really important and I certainly endorse your comments on that. When you gave evidence two years ago, John Mason pointed out that Glasgow University had cash assets of, I think, £770 million. Of course, you pointed out that not all universities were as well off as Glasgow was at that time. I do not know whether it is still as well off—John Mason has probably got a better grip on those accounts than I have. Surely, the university sector, at least in Glasgow, has plenty of money to invest, without seeking additional resources from a public sector, which, as we have heard, is already constrained.

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