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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 January 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning and welcome to the ninth meeting in 2024 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. We are joined today by Gillian Mackay, who is attending the meeting as a committee substitute in the absence of Ross Greer, who is at another committee. I invite Gillian to declare any relevant interests.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

The next item on our agenda today is an evidence session with the Minister for Community Wealth and Public Finance on the draft Budget (Scotland) Act 2023 Amendment Regulations 2024. Mr Arthur is joined today by two Scottish Government officials: Scott Mackay, head of finance co-ordination, and Craig Maidment, senior finance manager. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting, and I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

That is certainly helpful for Michelle Thomson, who has been nodding away. Thank you.

One of the important aspects of the budget is the Verity house agreement and the interaction there. As part of the budget document, £1 billion of ring-fenced funding that was previously held in portfolios was baselined into the local government settlement. That has been welcomed in local government. We have a breakdown of all that information here. How much remains ring fenced?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Is the direction of travel that you will reduce ring fencing further?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Are you sure that you do not have any more final questions, Michelle?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Aggregates Tax and Devolved Taxes Administration (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Mr Sharma, I have a final question for you. You are a member of the expert group, which began in January last year, and has met on five occasions. Which other organisations are on that expert group?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Aggregates Tax and Devolved Taxes Administration (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Do you consider it to be a balanced group that has all points of view?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Aggregates Tax and Devolved Taxes Administration (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

It is therefore fully comprehensive. That was what I wanted to confirm. No wonder you could not remember it off the top of your head, Mr Sharma.

Thank you all for your evidence today. The committee has an open mind, certainly on the bill, so we will see where the evidence that we take in future sessions takes us. The next evidence session is next Tuesday. Thank you for your time.

That ends the committee’s deliberations today, so I close the meeting. Thank you all.

Meeting closed at 12:30.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I understand that the proportion of inert waste is about 35 to 40 per cent. Is that a significant increase on a decade ago?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Kenneth Gibson

In terms of supplementary estimates—Scott Mackay touched on them earlier—additional funding is classed as being expected from the UK Government, but it is not clear why the estimates are included if they are merely expected as opposed to confirmed. I know that there is a lot of exasperation in the Scottish Government when the UK Government hints that money is coming in but it might or might not come. When do you decide to include or not include figures in the estimates?