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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning, and welcome to the 20th meeting in 2025 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee.

The first item on our agenda is an evidence session with the Scottish Fiscal Commission on its May 2025 economic and fiscal forecasts. I welcome, from the Scottish Fiscal Commission, Professor Graeme Roy, the chair; Professor Domenico Lombardi, a commissioner; Michael Davidson, the head of social security and devolved taxes; and John Ireland, the chief executive.

I invite Professor Roy to make a brief opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Right. But why do you think that it is going to fall from £73 million this year to £70 million and remain there for five years in a row?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

And there is no inflationary component.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Would you or your team like to make any further points?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I thank you once again for your evidence—it is much appreciated. We will now take a short break of some five minutes before we move to the next session.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Our second agenda item is consideration of evidence on the cost effectiveness of Scottish public inquiries. I welcome to the meeting Stephen McGowan, deputy Crown Agent, litigation, Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, and David Kennedy, general secretary, Scottish Police Federation. We already have your written submissions, so we will move straight to questions.

Mr Kennedy, I have to say that you provided a hard-hitting submission, which was refreshingly direct about the issues that the committee is addressing. In it, you say that you want to

“raise concerns regarding the escalating and unsustainable burden that public inquiries are placing on policing in Scotlandâ€

and that the

“current situation is critical.â€

You mention the six major public inquiries that are on-going in Scotland—those on Sheku Bayoh, Emma Caldwell, Scottish child abuse, Scottish hospitals, Covid-19 in Scotland, and Mr Eljamel’s practices in NHS Tayside’s area—and you say that,

“collectively, they represent a crippling financial and operational burden on a service already facing the most acute resourcing crisis in over a decade.â€

I could continue in that vein, but I am quite keen that you should have an opportunity to speak directly on the record.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The law of diminishing returns.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Or you will have to reduce the workforce.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is projected that expenditure on social security will rise by 30 per cent over the next five years, which is higher than the projected increase in tax revenues. That relates to the overall Scottish budget, but, within the social justice portfolio, expenditure on adult disability payments is expected to increase by more than 50 per cent during that period. There are some really concerning figures from an economic point of view—year-on-year increases of 8 or 10 per cent. Can you talk us through that a wee bit?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You have said that, overall, the effect of social security spending will widen by £600 million. A third of that relates to the devolved Government lifting the two-child cap, and the remaining £400 million relates to UK Government policy and block grant adjustment funding.

I know that you have been liaising with the Office for Budget Responsibility, but your projections on the economy look to be fairly optimistic. You will have seen from this morning’s figures that unemployment has increased. From what was said on the news today, it seems that the combination of the increase in the minimum wage and the increase in employer national insurance contributions has had quite an impact. What is your view on that?