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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
Definitions are also important. You have said:
“The UK and Scottish Governments should articulate their plans on how to achieve net zero and what level of public spending will be required.”
You go on to say:
“We recommend that spend on mitigation and adaptation be identifiable in budget documentation and outturn so that spending plans can be linked to delivered spending.”
How do we define what is spent on climate mitigation? There is a temptation for people to say that a job is a green job when it may be somewhat more tenuous to another eye, for example. Do you think that there must be agreement between Scotland and the UK on the language that is used, so that they are not talking about different things when looking at those aspects?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
Is it disproportionate?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
Have you no other sources of information? You were clearly aware of it. I thought that there would at least have been an inflationary uplift over the past 18 months, even given your caveat about submissions from Police Scotland and others.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you very much. That has concluded questions from the committee, but I have one or two more.
You seem to have more or less accepted Police Scotland’s figures now that it has provided them. What level of interrogation of those figures has the bill team undertaken?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
I have to say, though, that I am frankly astonished that it seems that it was only when the committee’s call for evidence went out that you realised that there was a need to review the figures, and yet we still ended up with figures from September 2022.
We talked about the process document—the bill handbook—being a living document. However, surely, a financial memorandum should be a living document up until it is presented to the committee in an updated form. If you know that the figures are inaccurate, the fact that you come here with something that bears no resemblance to the actual figures shows a real misunderstanding of the role of the committee, the processes of the Parliament and, indeed, the timescale in which scrutiny has to take place. Do you accept that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
I will touch on your report in a wee minute, but what you have said is, in effect, that, because Scotland has 70 per cent of the UK’s peatlands, it might be more difficult for Scotland to afford the sort of peatland restoration that is absolutely critical to tackling climate change, because that work would account for a higher proportion of our budget than it would of the UK’s. In that case, does that aspect of the fiscal framework—that is, the aspect relating to climate change—have to be looked at again, or should it just be overlaid by the existing fiscal framework? What is your view on that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
You say in paragraph 33 that
“it is not possible to provide a full assessment of costs or savings until the regulations have been agreed”,
but in table 1 you give a figure of ÂŁ1,414,474. You put quite precise figures into the table, despite the fact that, as you have admitted, the figures do not bear any real relation to what the costs will be. It seems very odd to be so precise in a document that is so imprecise.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
Indeed.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
First, I am quite astonished that publication of the updated financial memorandum is planned to happen after stage 2. An updated financial memorandum for any bill should be with us before stage 1. I do not think that what is proposed is appropriate at all, and I hope that work will be done to ensure that what I have suggested happens.
Secondly, I am quite surprised by the fact that the figures that are used in the financial memorandum relate to September 2022, which was 18 months ago. As Police Scotland pointed out in its submission, inflation peaked at 11.2 per cent a month after that point. Even if one does not agree with the costings that Police Scotland has provided, surely steps should have been taken to update the figures long before now.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Kenneth Gibson
If members are to deliberate on the general principles of a bill, it is appropriate that the Finance and Public Administration Committee scrutinise the financial memorandum—an updated financial memorandum—before it goes to the lead committee at stage 1. As far as I am aware, that is how it has always been done and should be done. It certainly should not be done after stage 2.
I understand your point that the bill was introduced in June last year, but it makes me even more bewildered that nine-month-old figures were used when, clearly, everyone knew that inflation was high—especially given that there have been nine months in which to update it since then. We are being presented with a set of figures that do not really mean anything. We could go through it all—I sat ready with all my nice wee yellow-highlighted bits and questions to ask, but you are saying, in effect, that the financial memorandum—all 22 pages of it—is not worth the paper that it is written on at this stage. Is that a fair assessment?