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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

David Lonsdale, where do we strike the balance? When the UK Government had consequentials for the hospitality sector last year鈥攁part from the islands, which I lobbied for鈥攖hat was not passed on. The Scottish Government said that the money was being put into the NHS. People who run small businesses and who work in retail rely on the NHS, too, just like everybody else. Where do we strike the balance, given the restricted nature of the Scottish budget? What would provide for the retail sector and the businesses that you represent in the wider Scottish budget and economy?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that. Time is against us, so I want to give our guests an opportunity to make any final points if they so wish. Vikki Manson, you can go last, because you started first. Would David Lott or David Lonsdale wish to add anything further?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Are you hoping that the new UK Government will look at, for example, the imbalance in paying rates between businesses on the high street and online businesses? Is that something that you are looking at?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Yes鈥攖here would be a minimal cost to the Government but a benefit to business.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I thank our witnesses鈥擠a-Lo, Da-Lo and Vikki鈥攆or their evidence this morning. We will publish our thoughts once we have taken further evidence. We now move into private session.

12:18 Meeting continued in private until 13:17.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

The issue that you have touched on is politics. The Scottish Government is in a minority situation and we are 18 months before an election, so one would think that the Opposition parties are very unlikely to get on board with whatever the Scottish Government says. Given its huge majority, could the UK Government perhaps not take the lead on an issue such as council tax reform?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

We are going to see a lot more fiscal drag.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Professor Bell, is the pace of progress adequate, given the situation that we are in at the moment, or could the Government do more to accelerate work on delivering its priorities?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I am going to call our next witness Mr Lonsdale, rather than David. As four of the five male witnesses today are called David, that will make life a wee bit less confusing. We had a Richard on the earlier panel, just as a token, but you really have to be called David to give evidence here. For example, on previous occasions we have heard from David Eiser and David Phillips鈥攖here have been loads of Davids.

Mr Lonsdale, Vikki Manson touched on the regulatory burden, and you expressed concern about that in your submission. Will you expand on that a wee bit?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I am sorry, but I was going to let David Lonsdale speak first, because he was already discussing that topic.