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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Last year, the cost of the child abuse inquiry was £968,277. Surely that level of cost must make it more difficult for you to deliver the other services that the COPFS should deliver.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Ministers take advice. The Sheku Bayoh inquiry was launched because of advice from your office and the Lord Advocate.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

We are hoping to see that in September. Have you had any indication of when you are likely to see it? Might it be before then?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thanks very much. A number of colleagues are keen to come in.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

When inquiries such as the Emma Caldwell inquiry or Sheku Bayoh inquiry take place, police resources are really impacted. Other inquiries—the Eljamel inquiry, for example—require NHS resources. Whether or not we have the same inquiry model in place, is there an argument for a completely ring-fenced fund to pay for public inquiries, so that specific service budgets are not impacted?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I am sorry to cut across you, but this is about not only cost but cost-effectiveness. There is not a lot of point in having an inquiry and making recommendations if nothing happens. In the first evidence session of our inquiry, Professor Cameron said that some recommendations that were made in the Jersey inquiry had first been made in 1945, in the very first child abuse inquiry, and still had not been implemented.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Did the Chhokar case take a year, from 2000 to 2001?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Our long-term historical average will change if we are stuck with low growth, according to your projections. We are nowhere near where we were before the financial crash in 2007-08. It seems like we are still trying to recover from that situation.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

In paragraph 4.18 of the report, you say:

“The Income Tax net position is projected to be £616 million in 2025-26, which is £222 million lower than the December 2024 projection.â€

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Do you think that there should be cost controls? Mr Kennedy has made a couple of helpful suggestions. Every other area of the public sector, whether it is the police, the NHS or local government, has a budget and is expected to deliver on it. However, it seems to me that inquiries are almost open ended. The Sheku Bayoh inquiry has gone on for six years. There should be an assessment at the outset of what the opportunity cost will be, for want of a better phrase. If resources are being taken away from the police to put into an inquiry that may or may not come to a conclusion in a few years’ time, and that may or may not produce recommendations that may or may not be implemented, should there not be a comparison of the costs? There is also an implication for the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, relative to other areas where public money should be spent. Is that not something that you think should take place?