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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

I hope that things are settling down, although I understand that there is a UK Government reshuffle going on just now, so who knows? We might have more churn before the day is out.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

This is a routine discussion that also includes the Welsh finance minister; FISC鈥攖he finance interministerial standing committee; there are too many acronyms in this world鈥攊s happening on Thursday and we will have the opportunity to discuss those issues.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

The programme must be delayed. The crucial point is that any expenditure that is incurred in this financial year must be accounted for in this financial year. That is how the accounting rules operate.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

In certain projects, there will be implications as a consequence of interest rate changes. I do not have a detailed picture in front of me. The Government publishes the information on PFI projects annually, but if I can produce more information for the committee, I will look to do that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

A variety of questions come to mind. One of the points that the convener made was about being able to offer long-term certainty to the wider marketplace. That is really quite critical, not just for the wider marketplace but for the third sector and local authorities. We are often in a kind of stop-start situation in budgetary terms, and I understand that that is not desirable. I think that there is quite a lot that we could do to address the practicality of the framework.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

We can certainly try to address that issue. We follow, and are obliged by statute to follow, the advice of the Scottish Fiscal Commission, which of course reflects on the OBR advice. That is the position in statutory terms. In approaching the budget this year, I was not thinking that I had to reconcile the position of the Scottish Fiscal Commission with that of the Office for Budget Responsibility; I was thinking that I have an obligation to listen to what the Scottish Fiscal Commission is saying and to take my budget decisions on the basis of that premise. I did not feel any confusion about where the centrality of advice comes from.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

All that I am trying to say is that I do not think that there is an awful lot of difference between the two numbers that we are talking about. That is the only point that I am making.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

Those are the day-to-day judgements that must be applied to ensure that we can bring the budget into line.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

Liz Smith rightly cautions me about treading too far into private sector management practices, but there are opportunities for employees to continue to be involved in activity while working in a different fashion.

Three years ago, working from home was the exception, not the rule; hardly anyone did it鈥攈ardly anyone used Microsoft Teams and all the rest of it. The world has changed and people are now able to live their lives in a slightly less congested fashion. I would encourage employers to be as flexible as they can be with their workforce鈥擨 would be surprised if they did not get all the benefits from their workforce that they would expect to get.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

John Swinney

The UK Government is in dialogue with us about all issues of the management of this year鈥檚 budget. That is part of our active discussion with the UK Government and I am happy with the nature of those discussions so far. That will have an ultimate effect on our budget management.