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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

We know that the social security budget is a great example of how the agreement does not work. The limitation on borrowing powers is a major impediment, and that has been exposed hugely through Covid and the cost of living crisis. As a matter of urgency, those are issues that need to be opened up. If we can get that opened up, and if we can get a different budget settlement for the Scottish Government for those flexibilities and borrowing powers, that would have a knock-on benefit to parts of the public sector. Therefore, that is very important.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

Discussions have been mooted, but they are not in any way at a detailed level, as far as I am aware. Is that correct, Ian?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

I will perhaps ask colleagues to come in on some of the detail of financial transactions. Financial transactions are available to the Scottish Government. It is for it to decide how to allocate them. Because there are restrictions on how financial transactions can be used, housing has done quite well out of them when they have appeared. They have fluctuated, however, so we do not really know well in advance what financial transactions allocation we will get through the UK Government. The allocation comes quite late, so it is hard to plan a 10-year investment around financial transactions. When we have had notice of financial transactions availability, the affordable housing supply programme has generally done quite well out of that. This year, we have seen an increase of 拢17.6 million in financial transactions, which has helped with the balance of capital availability.

I do not know whether anybody wants to add anything on FTs.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

Are you referring to the open market shared equity scheme?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

The OMSE scheme works to reduce risk, in that you have to meet certain criteria to be able to access it. It is right that we have that flexibility to support those who are on low to moderate incomes, and who would not be able to afford to buy their home otherwise, to access the housing market.

It is important that strict affordability criteria are in operation for the scheme. That will, we hope, mean that people will not get access to the scheme if they are not able to afford it. They are encouraged to seek independent financial advice before taking out any shared equity agreement, in addition to any requirements that their lender has. That said, it would be remiss of me not to point out that, whether you are in a rented property or are paying a mortgage, interest rates, inflation and the cost of living鈥攅verything that is bearing down on household costs鈥攑ut pressure on every household budget. We need to be very much alive to that. However, it is important that we provide that opportunity to people who otherwise would not have it.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

Ian Storrie will keep me right, but the funding formula is a matter for COSLA. Over the years, adjustments have been made to the funding formula, but it is a thorny issue among local authorities. There is probably quite a lot of hesitance in COSLA and local government more widely about opening up that Pandora鈥檚 box, because there will be winners and losers from any adjustment to the formula. It is not something that we can do to local government; it has to be initiated by COSLA. If COSLA and local government were to pitch up and say that they wanted to look at that again, we certainly would not stand in the way of reviewing the formula, but it would have to be led by them. I think that that is the position.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

There is regular dialogue with various people in local government. The cabinet secretary for finance鈥攖he Deputy First Minister鈥攔egularly meets various local government representatives, as do I. The meetings tend to be with the presidential team of COSLA or, in my case, I have spent a lot of time meeting housing conveners, for example, directly. We are well aware of the points that you have raised, and there has been extensive correspondence on those matters.

I do not think that anyone in the room would say that finances are not challenging and difficult. That is for all parts of the public sector, and local government is no exception. I will add some context to the 拢1 billion ask. The consequentials for 2023, for local authority and education spending in England鈥攂ear in mind that that is where Barnett consequentials flow from鈥攁re circa 拢242 million, net of national insurance contributions reversal. To be blunt, if we tried to meet that 拢1 billion ask, we would have to go well beyond the Barnett allocation for local government from the UK Government. In addition, the global additional resources coming from the UK Government are about 拢800 million.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

Clearly, inflation impacts on every part of public sector investment, including local government. For example, in housing, it is important that there is some flexibility in the contracts in order to be able to keep projects coming through and enable them to be delivered. Capital investment through local government and other public bodies provides an important stimulus to the local economy, so we recognise its importance.

We need to think about innovation. In housing, there are two areas with a lot of potential. One is joint procurement鈥攑erhaps trying to pool spending power in negotiations for materials, for example鈥攁nd doing things on a more joint basis across the housing sector. The other is looking at more off-site construction, which provides efficiencies because it allows for all-year-round build. The interruptions of winter are not as profound with off-site construction. That area probably needs to expand, and I would hope that the cost per unit would also come down if there were those economies of scale from large-scale purchase through the affordable housing project.

Those are two areas. There are others that can be looked at, but those areas offer the opportunity to drive forward efficiencies and ensure that we get as much return for investment as possible.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

I guess that you could say that any public service will want to ask for the maximum, but I think that directors of finance realise that difficult decisions will have to be made across the public sector. What the Accounts Commission has said is interesting. First, it recognised the 拢570 million figure, which was helpful. It also said that there would need to be reform, building on the Covid recovery strategy and doing things differently, and it pointed to perhaps needing to review the use of reserves. I hasten to add that I totally accept that some of those reserves have already been committed, but it is always good to keep those things under review. The health service would also say that, in an ideal world, it would want X but, if X is not available, it is then about the art of the possible within the constraints on funding across the board.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Shona Robison

Ultimately, those are decisions for councils to make. I totally accept that, once reserves are spent, they are spent: they can be spent only once. I also accept that some reserves are earmarked for things, and they may have been earmarked for quite some time. However, we would expect local authorities or any other public organisations that have reserves to hand to keep their current priorities under review. Reserves might be earmarked for something that was a priority five years ago. Those things should always be kept under review to consider what is the most important use of reserves in the current financial climate or in competing priorities.

That is my main point. Money is money, and judgments have to be made about the appropriate use of reserves. Reserves can play an important role in a cost of living crisis, and I know that some local authorities are already using them to support people through the most difficult of times.

Earlier, we talked about reform. Sometimes the impediment to reform is trying to keep the existing show on the road while trying to do things differently and reforming services. Reserves can be very useful in that context, as well, because there can be a twin-track approach to reforming services, making improvements, and getting better value for money.

Ultimately, those are decisions for councils to make. I am sure that discussions are being had about them.