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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

There are also the single building assessments that developers are taking forward, and the work that the public sector is taking forward on its own buildings. We are focusing on those buildings for which there is no ownership or responsibility. I think that the pace will increase and that a number of buildings will be rapidly assessed as being okay. Not every building will require the same input of time, effort and remediation. We will be able to clear those buildings and give them the green light, and then we will be able to focus remediation on the buildings that require it. I do not think that it is fair to just say that 100 buildings a year would take 14 years. That is a very blunt tool.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

Once we are up and running with the SBAs, I think that they will gather pace, particularly for more straightforward buildings. We want to be transparent about this and we will give regular updates on what the pace is once we have the systems fully up and running.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

鈥攚hat lies behind that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

We will come back to you on that specific point.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

All 拢97 million has been received. What we will spend is dependent on what is required. Some of our spend is on the immediate safety measures that have had to be put in place鈥攆or example, waking watches鈥攂ut the big spend will be on remediation after SBAs have been completed.

Inevitably, there will be a lag in the increase in spend, but every penny of the consequentials that we have received will absolutely be spent, and we will have to add to that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

We will come back with that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

It is May 2025.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

The business and regulatory impact assessment will look at the impact on the sector. That will probably be more of an issue for developers that have sole responsibility for the remediation of a building, because that will be the bigger cost, whereas the levy will be a contribution to a bigger pot. We have talked about the 拢10 million threshold for developers that sign up for the remediation of their buildings, because we understand the position of SMEs that might not have the wherewithal to do that, as it would not be viable. That is why we landed on the 拢10 million figure.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

There were arguments for this to be done on a UK basis, because some of the developers are UK developers and we felt that that would have made more sense, but we are past that point. Inevitably, the levy鈥攚hether in England, Wales or here鈥攚as never going to be able to cover all the costs of remediation; the public purse was always going to have to make a significant contribution.

Obviously, the levers that we have are the ones that we have. The levy will make a contribution but, without a doubt, we will need a line of sight of capital provision for remediation over the next few years to ensure that it is adequate and at a level and of a trajectory to meet the required SBA outcomes and remediation work. There is a significant requirement on the public purse but, at the end of the day, all Governments have to step in when it comes to building safety and public safety.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

I want people to have their buildings remediated and to be able to move on with their lives as soon as possible. However, getting it right is also important, as is Stephen Lea-Ross鈥檚 point about freeholders. If there is a single freeholder, as is the case in England, it is much easier to get agreement. However, in Scotland, there might be 100 home owners in a building and they must all be in agreement. That requires a different process, and the legislation will really help to push forward with SBAs when there is no agreement.