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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

I very much agree with Mark Ruskell’s points. The committee’s evidence sessions on the topic in previous weeks have been useful in considering how to make buses more accessible and affordable, and even in relation to whether services should exist. Important opportunities come from franchising. One thing that is quite helpful is the reference to the requirements for transport authorities to have time to ensure that services are retained for passengers in the event of operators reducing or withdrawing their services before a franchise framework comes into operation. That is an important provision.

For me, part of the issue is about the sheer length of time that the franchising process will take. The requirements are too onerous. The process needs to be simplified—it is too complex and too time consuming. Compared with the process in England, there are a lot more requirements placed on any authority that wants to use the franchising process, and that is not helpful.

I very much agree with Mark that the statutory guidance must be issued as soon as possible. I know that Strathclyde Partnership for Transport is looking at franchising, although I understand that it is not a cheap process; it could cost it £15 million. We need to make progress. However, we also need a reality check, because it could be 2030 before we see bus franchising in Scotland. That means that people will not get the bus services that they need. Although I support franchising, much more needs to change.

I thank the Get Glasgow Moving team for raising that issue with me, to make sure that we focus on making this possible for the benefit of our constituents, because the timescale for this happening is way off into the future.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

Thanks. I will come back later to ask about some of the changes that have been made.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

Cabinet secretary, could you give a bit of clarity about the fees that will be introduced for electricity consent applications? Will those fees be ring fenced to support the work of the energy consents unit? I draw your attention to the views that we got from Scottish Environment LINK that, if we were to do that, it would be likely to lead to

“better resourcing of the determination process and therefore more timeous processing of applications, without being overly onerous for applicants.â€

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

It is useful to get that on the record. For clarity, you said that you expect the fees to go to the energy consents unit, but can you confirm that that is definitely what will happen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

That would be useful. I know from being in various local authorities recently the differences between places where people can drop materials for collection 5 feet away and places where they have a long walk to recycle things. In the latter case, it is just not happening.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

I have a couple of questions about the practical changes that the SSI will make. First, the cabinet secretary referred to the polluter-pays principle. What is the estimated income that will be generated for our local authorities in implementing this piece of work? Also, what are the estimated costs to SEPA of implementing these enforcement powers, and can it generate any income from this?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

I want to put on the record what that means in practice. Is it moving from plastics to cardboard or reducing packaging entirely?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

I welcome those answers, because the issue of small producers and retailers is huge and one that I certainly raised in the first instance.

You did not clarify whether there had been any discussions with local government or NGOs in the drafting of the current regulations.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

I think that issue about there not being a gap is important for environmental standards—we do not want to see a reduction in standards here.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Sarah Boyack

One thing that strikes me here is that significant changes will be taking place, which includes new duties for local authorities and SEPA, but there is gap in relation to advertising the changes. How will our constituents know about them? We need there to be publicity, led by the Scottish Government, so that people will understand what is happening, because it will impact their everyday lives. The changes that the cabinet secretary has mentioned are pretty significant.

I would also like there to be monitoring and analysis of the registration fees that SEPA will receive. Although no concerns have been raised about that, that will enable us to see what practical change is taking place once delivery is under way.

Providing a lot more information on and giving a lot more publicity to the issue would be very much welcome.