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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

Looking back, was that an error?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

Good morning, cabinet secretary. I confess that I have not previously heard such stark warnings as I have done in the evidence that we have recently heard from the various justice organisations. You will have heard the chief constable say that she will have to reduce police numbers; the Fire and Rescue Service say that it will have to reduce firefighter numbers; and the SCTS say that there will be further court delays if it does not get what it asked for. Alarmingly, the chief executive of the Scottish Prison Service, Teresa Medhurst, said that if she does not get what she has asked for, she

“will not have enough money to run the organisation”.—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 19 November 2025; c 30.]

You must be concerned about the real crisis that will happen in the justice system if the Government falls short of the asks of those organisations.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

Liam Kerr has already alluded to this, and we have heard it many times. You have said that the police budget has increased since 2016, but the police will also tell us—and it is recorded fact—that £1 billion was taken, or saved, if you like, from the creation of Police Scotland. Notwithstanding what you have told the committee about other ways to reform through digitisation and getting our police officers on the front line, there is not much more scope for savings. Do you acknowledge the figure that the chief constable has given us? She said that we have lost 900 police officers since the creation of Police Scotland. I wondered why that was.

11:30  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

In its submission, the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service said that the renewal money—I think that was the phrase; I cannot find it—was not included in the baseline, and it was not sure why that was.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

Good afternoon. I know that you have answered a lot of questions, but I have to be honest and say that I do not know whether I have understood all of this.

I think that I am right about this, but when you met and had a conversation with the Opposition parties about prison numbers, you mentioned a figure of about 600 foreign nationals, or thereabouts, in Scottish jails. I suppose that that is a significant number.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

Ah. Right.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

Are those 119 prisoners eligible for early release now or not?

12:45  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

They would be less likely to come to Scotland.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

I was also going to ask about that. One of the reasons that the minister gave for having reservations about the framing of the legislation was specifically about that. What do you think she meant? I thought that she was talking about proving the offence.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Pauline McNeill

I thought that you might have read the evidence given by Siobhian Brown last week.