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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

You are saying that the reoffending rates during Covid were much the same as in any other period. Obviously, a concern about passing the SSI is that we will get high reoffending rates. I do not know whether I will have time to ask you about this, but I am sure that others will: that is why the prisoner release plan becomes absolutely essential.

I am absolutely sure that everything is being done by the service, but we are being asked to pass an SSI that we know is likely to lead to the same pattern of reoffending, so I want to know what assurance the system can give that every prisoner will be monitored on release and will have a plan that will give the public some confidence.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

My last question relates to the short window for release. It starts on 13 June, and you said that it will end in mid-July. My central question relates to the fact that there is not a long time for you to plan, as I want to ensure that the committee does not have to pass SSIs so quickly in the future.

You said in reply to a committee member鈥攁ctually, I think that it was me鈥攖hat you are looking at longer-term prisoners. Is that part of your thinking to avoid any future committee being asked to do this? Are you starting to make changes? I am trying to understand, if we pass the SSI, how to ensure that we are not here again. We have such a short window. I acknowledge all the things that are being done on the use of home detention curfew or by looking at the remand population, but they seem to be a long way off.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

That is helpful. Last week, when we received the papers, that was one of the factors that was highlighted.

Criminal Justice Committee

Emergency Release of Prisoners and Other Key Challenges in Scotland鈥檚 Prisons

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

Kate, you said that people who were convicted of culpable homicide might be a category of prisoner that is released. Is that because of the sentencing around culpable homicide?

Criminal Justice Committee

Emergency Release of Prisoners and Other Key Challenges in Scotland鈥檚 Prisons

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

Given what Wendy Sinclair-Gieben has said about the conditions that remand prisoners are held in, does the Prison Governors Association have a view on whether remand prisons or centres might be a way forward if Scotland continues to remand so many people? The trend does not seem to be relenting.

Criminal Justice Committee

Emergency Release of Prisoners and Other Key Challenges in Scotland鈥檚 Prisons

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

I am glad that you mentioned the Dick Stewart project, which is a Glasgow-based service. I find it really odd that, at a time when we need such services, they are not going to be there.

Criminal Justice Committee

Emergency Release of Prisoners and Other Key Challenges in Scotland鈥檚 Prisons

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

Can you remind the committee鈥攐r remind me鈥攚hich prisoners come before the Parole Board?

Criminal Justice Committee

Emergency Release of Prisoners and Other Key Challenges in Scotland鈥檚 Prisons

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

You have probably seen the Howard League鈥檚 list of demands, which you will not disagree with. The big one is mental health support in prisons, but we are not going to be able to tackle that or provide any more rehabilitation programmes through this. This is simply about breathing space鈥攊s that where we are?

Criminal Justice Committee

Emergency Release of Prisoners and Other Key Challenges in Scotland鈥檚 Prisons

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

I want to begin with a question for Phil Fairlie, and Paula Arnold will probably want to answer it, too. We have been asked to look at this short-term measure. In your view, Phil, what difference would it make to the management of prisons if we were to pass it?

Criminal Justice Committee

Emergency Release of Prisoners and Other Key Challenges in Scotland鈥檚 Prisons

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Pauline McNeill

Paula Arnold, do you want to answer the same question?