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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

The same would apply to getting people to the ferries on the mainland, as well as to what happens on the other side of the water.

Perhaps the two of you can give me a one-word answer to this question: should the islands connectivity plan that is being developed go wider than just ferries and look not just at what transport means on the islands but at connectivity to ferry ports on the mainland, too? Would your unions agree to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I will stay with you just now, Gordon, but I put Martyn Gray on standby, because I want to ask him the same questions.

All of this leads us on to project Neptune, of which there has, I think, been a great deal of criticism. However, it has delivered a report that contains extensive information. Is there anything that can be taken from project Neptune that would help to deliver better outcomes? I want to concentrate on what we want for the future rather than on what we do not want.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

RET has been successful in bringing lots of cars over. We have heard it suggested that it might help with the pursuit of net zero and, indeed, reduce the impact of excess carbon if we were to encourage people to leave their cars on the mainland and made electric cars available for use on the islands. Gordon Martin, what is your view on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Because families going across to the islands often take many cars, it is felt that such a proposal would reduce the number of cars on the islands. Martyn, do you have any comment to make?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you. Martyn Gray, do the terms of the Clyde and Hebrides and northern isles ferry services contracts unduly limit the ability to respond to customer needs? Does there need to be more decentralised decision making about what happens in problem situations? Might there need to be more flexibility in the new contracts, once they are tendered, to give more decision-making powers locally, with operations being informed by the crew? Might that help to resolve issues?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I am sure that the committee will be very interested to see that report, but we would need to liaise with the RMT about the timing, given that, in January, we will probably be coming to a close with the inquiry.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Gordon Martin, might there be some way of making greater flexibility part of the new contracts, with the new tendering? I suppose that we want responsiveness that provides for decisions that are informed, safe and more practical.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

If you do not mind, convener, I want to put the same two questions to Martyn Gray from Nautilus International. First, Martyn, what is your critique of the proposal to have a social enterprise or community-owned company take on one or two services? Secondly, is there anything from project Neptune whose taking forward into the connectivity plan would be a positive move?