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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you very much, Edward.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I appreciate that you have been in post for only two months, but our committee is about to produce a report and we are nearing the end of this question session, so it would be helpful to know what that mechanism would look like.

Silke Isbrand, do you want to come in, on the invitation of Councillor Macgregor?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

But there is no obvious transparency about that overall impact to make it clear, whether it should be the board鈥檚 oversight or indeed the minister鈥檚 oversight.

Could I give you an example? We have talked a lot about volume and you have talked effectively, I think, about how you are managing volume. However, clearly, if Registers of Scotland or lawyers make a mistake, it could have consequences. I think that the rejections could be seen as a good thing鈥攁s gatekeeping potential problems with what has been presented. However, clearly, the risk of that is greater鈥攜ou have said this yourself鈥攆rom a 2017 case than it is from a more recent case, because trying to manage that risk, or to rectify a problem, whether it lies with your organisation or with the supply chain of lawyers providing the applications, is more problematic if you are carrying more older cases. The potential severity of that impact needs to be measured somewhere.

I am not sure that that is transparent either in what you have been saying to us today or in your corporate plan, or indeed in what I have seen in the risk register; it is just service inputs as opposed to risk outputs to the economy. We are the economy committee, so clearly we are interested in that. It may not always be you, and it might be individual lawyers. Between you and your major customer base鈥攍awyers; obviously, you work very closely with the Law Society鈥攈ow do you manage the risk of things going wrong, as can and does happen? We know that it will not be large cases; it will be small cases, but those cases could have a major impact.

Do you have a duty of care at all and who holds responsibility for any impact on individuals鈥攜ou will know about mental health issues that we will come to you about鈥攁s home owners or indeed businesses? Where does the risk of that impact lie? Where does the accountability lie? Is that with individual lawyers, the Law Society, your board or you as an organisation? There is definitely a risk there, but who is managing that risk and how do we make it more transparent that it is being managed properly?

11:15  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Somebody needs to do that, and that is probably what people are really interested in. Rather than hoping, it would be very helpful if you could consider some kind of collective oversight鈥攜ou referred to an ecosystem; it is that鈥攖o ensure that those risks and that impact are managed.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I would like to ask about your risk register. We understand that it is published every month for your board. We can find a June 2021 risk register, but I would like to ask about the transparency of that for scrutiny purposes and access for this committee and also about how it has informed your corporate plan.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

It is fair to say that a lot of your risk management is on the supply side and is about how you operate as an institution and an organisation, but clearly the importance of Registers of Scotland lies in the fact that it is vital to our economy, to our businesses and to individuals. The impact of the risks that you carry can have quite life-changing effects on people. Who manages that outward-facing risk and why does that not appear in your corporate plan or indeed, from what I have seen, your risk register?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you, and sorry about the mistitling. We really want to hear your advice about the freshwater side, in particular.

I move to Calum Duncan.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I ask Craig Macadam to talk about how COP15 can impact on how Scotland delivers on its international obligations.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

We will put Susan Davies on audio only so that we can hear her loud and clear. What is her view on the interaction of COP15 with our consultation and subsequent strategy?