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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

That very question had occurred to me, too. I was a bit worried about the SSI’s potential broadness, but my understanding is exactly as you have said. At the moment, the regulations allow such measures only within the avian context, but if the disease moves into mammals, the SSI will give a veterinarian the ability to say, “Actually, we need to close down these premises, because of the risk that it has now moved into X species and we need to prevent it from moving elsewhere.” I now feel secure about what is proposed—I do not think that the provisions would be abused. Indeed, I would be very surprised if that were to be the case.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

Where a conflict exists.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

In the policy memorandum, the Scottish Government sets out clearly that it feels that there is a massive gap here. However, we had the academics in last week, and I think that they, and pretty much all of you, are saying that you think completely differently. To go back to your point, Dan, what is the Scottish Government suggesting that it needs following our withdrawal from the European Union that you say is not required?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

I know that we were slightly repeating ourselves there, but it is an important point. We could go through the purposes line by line, but that is maybe not the point that we should be focusing on. There is a bigger point here.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

It is an interesting question. As the convener mentioned, we visited Cairngorm national park earlier this week, and the subject of biodiversity credits came up. I struggle to get my head around carbon credits, let alone biodiversity credits. What impact will biodiversity credits have? That vehicle could be a significant driver of private investment, could it not? How does the idea of biodiversity credits work alongside the setting of statutory biodiversity targets?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

My first thought was about councils. You are probably right that there are broader organisations, although I can imagine local authorities being particularly affected.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

Do you see how that could be quite scary for some public bodies? What does it mean in practice? Would a financial contribution or a time commitment be required? How would they do that, given the possible competing priorities?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

Fair enough—very good. That point was picked up by a lot of local people, and I would have thought that, if you are going to drive forward your climate and biodiversity aims, you will have to do that with local people in mind.

The bill seeks to upgrade the duty on relevant public bodies with a change in the wording from “have regard to” to “facilitate the implementation of”. As a former councillor, I am aware that councils—there are other public bodies, of course—such as Moray Council and Aberdeenshire Council, in the Cairngorms national park, would fall within that, and they would have huge responsibilities even though there is a massive lack of funding and not a lot of staff resource to put into such things. How do you see that change working? What is your initial feeling about it? What would it really mean in practice?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

Are there any prior examples of the Sandford principle being put in place?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Tim Eagle

Elspeth Macdonald has pretty much answered this, but does anyone else have thoughts on the impact of the changes on other marine users?