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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

My question was on that point. I was looking at the evidence, and it is a very difficult issue, is it not? I get Rhoda Grant’s point that farming varies quite significantly across Scotland. If we are talking about the north-east corner of Scotland, we can argue that there are traditional spring and autumn calving herds. Therefore, the spring calving herd is potentially more likely to meet the 410-day threshold, whereas the autumn calving herd might not—or a lower proportion of them would meet that.

Is there a risk that management changes in the long term might involve a shift more towards spring calving? What effect might that have in relation to stock coming to market? I am not suggesting that that will happen, but I am curious about whether that has been factored into any of your discussions. It sounds as though it has.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

Good morning. I have a few questions. The first is a point of clarification. If a cow slips and goes over the calving interval and then has a calf, there will not be a payment for that calf but, if the cow has a calf in future within the 410 days, there will be a payment. Is that correct?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

That was on heifer calves. That is fine, because they get the payment. In the second year, if a calf is born within 410 days, it attracts the payment. If that cow then slipped—if it did not have a calf that year but had one the following year—that would then not get the payment, because it would be outwith the 410 days. It would be 600 days or whatever. However, if it had a calf the following year within the 410 days, that would get the payment again. Is that correct?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

What are your thoughts on what will happen post that date? You are introducing the scheme now, but we are only three or four years off that date. What would that support look like in future? Will the scheme carry on? What will any scheme for voluntary coupled support look like?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

Okay—thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

Yes—sorry, minister. That had just gone out of my head. My computer crashed, which is sending me funny.

I apologise to the convener and the minister—I forgot to declare my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am a farmer, although I do not have cattle. I should have said that earlier, so apologies for that.

I have a quick question on peatland, minister. Timber extraction—unless I have missed it—is not explicitly mentioned in the regulations, but there might be instances in which roads would need to be built. Wind turbines are mentioned, but not timber. Has that come across your thoughts?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

I think that I know where you are coming from on that. You are trying to make it as efficient as possible to meet the target. The question is how it works in practice in the industry.

Is there a risk of misrecording? Could farmers start registering calves that then die so that they can get within the 410 days? Is that likely?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

Okay, that is fine—it is possible to do that.

With autumn calving, slips are much more likely in percentage terms. At that time, it is much less likely that the calving interval that you propose will be met. That is a worry, is it not, because we want distribution of stock coming to market across the year. Have you taken any evidence, or do you have any concerns about, the risks of calving at certain points in the year? An SRUC study suggested that 63 to 65 per cent of late autumn calves would meet the 410-day threshold, which means that around 40 per cent of late autumn calvers might not meet that condition.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

I asked you that question because we do not yet have the rural support plan. We have the agenda that the Government would like to go on, but we do not yet have the detail. We, and our farmers in particular, are questioning what is coming. They are wondering, “What avenue do I take? How do I take that? If I go down this route now as I plan for my business, what will the scheme come out with?” That is what I am worried about. Coupled support is important in parts of Scotland and, to be fair, probably all of Scotland. I am curious to see what your thoughts are on it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Tim Eagle

Thank you, convener—was I coming in at this point?