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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I should have said that criteria are also important in that code. Are you aware of the financial memorandum and that it lays out how many times you expect to use the new powers under nature restoration?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have to clip my little flock of sheep soon, and, a bit like that, it all seems just a wee bit woolly for me. It is about clarity and understanding. Earlier, you mentioned case studies and the code of practice. With regard to what restoration means for one holding and then the holding next to it, and so on, will you give that guarantee that you will put not just case studies but clear guidance with the code of practice and work with the sector to ensure that we know what it means?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have a couple of final questions. The first is around the business and regulatory impact assessment, or BRIA. I have not yet seen one or found one. Do you know whether that has been done or is being done? When we might see that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

The issue here is about overreaching. It is not about the impacts of section 8 not being adhered to. If a new owner were to come in and say, “I agree with all of that,” in order for the land sale to proceed, because the land price could be affected, should the bill provide that NatureScot could de-escalate the requirement to an agreement, rather than the land having to be sold with a control scheme in place? Does that make sense?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

What is NatureScot’s relationship with the code? I ask that because my understanding is that, under the 1996 act, you had to “have regard to” the code of practice. I am not quite clear now. In some parts, I think that “have regard to” has gone, but it remains in section 5 of the 1996 act. That is not particularly strong, is it? You have to have regard to, but it does not matter. In your minds, will NatureScot work to the code that is produced?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I looked up a definition, which I have here. It says that

“Case law from 2014 notes that to have regard to a matter means simply that that matter must be specifically considered not that it must be given greater weight than other matters.”

Some stakeholders are coming to me and saying, “I don’t know what NatureScot is going to do with the code of practice.” I think that they need the explicit knowledge that everything that you write in it will be built with them and that it will also be what you follow.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Good morning. This is an interesting discussion. Part of the problem with framework bills is that they are not defined. The stakeholders do not know what is going on. I have a few questions about the code of practice, because I think that it will be instrumental in helping everyone to understand what the bill will do. Section 12 of the bill changes when NatureScot can review compliance with and the effectiveness of the code of practice for deer management. How will you decide when is an appropriate time to carry out a review?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have one more quick question. Do you think it would be better to change “have regard to” in the bill to “comply with” because that might give certainty to stakeholders? Also, as the convener mentioned, do you think that it would have been better if a draft code had been published along with the bill, because the framework nature of the bill means that we do not really know what we are talking about here?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I appreciate that you only just got that letter, but once you have had the chance to review it, is it right that your position might change? You might decide to come back and say, “Actually, we’re fully supportive of this bill.”