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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

鈥攂ut we do not know what that might look like.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

I am happy to get back with that detail.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

The requirement would have been to remove the regulations that were laid on 17 May. The changes to the scheme to move it to October were announced last week. We would have had to withdraw those regulations, change them and bring them back. That would have been done through an expedited process, which would allow less scrutiny and, would, potentially, run up against that recess break. I agree that doing it this way is frustrating to all of us, but it means that the committee has had the normal amount of time to scrutinise those amendments and we avoid the cliff-edge problem of what happens over the summer. It is absolutely my intention to lay鈥攁s the convener suggests鈥攁mending regulations for October 2025 before recess, but those cannot be laid until this SSI has passed.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

We could have withdrawn the SSI and modified it, but the timeline for scrutiny would have been very much compressed and we felt that it was important for the committee to be able to scrutinise the regulations.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

From the internal market act intervention, we know that we might have to bring before Parliament more regulations, not only around whether the October 2025 date is deliverable but around other matters, such as the amount of the deposit. By continuing with this SSI鈥攚ith these amendments, as promised to industry鈥攚e completely define the Scottish scheme and avoid that cliff edge. We do so using the smoothest parliamentary process.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

Was it 60 per cent?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

That is a really nice way of putting it. As I have said, the regulations as they were originally passed in 2020 were made deliberately broad to allow the industry to find its way. The amendments represent feedback from the industry on the support that it would like to make the scheme work best for its members. We have gone and done what it asked us to do.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

It will not replace it鈥攊t will just amend the date.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

Thank you, convener, We have covered the matter extensively, so I will go straight to moving the motion.

I move,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland Amendment Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Lorna Slater

Yes鈥攕orry. There will be some consequential date changes around registration, but it will be to do with that date. There will be no more definition of the scheme in terms of the materials included in it and so on. It is specifically in order to get that date right.

As I have said, there are some consequential date changes in terms of the registration date. The registration date for 16 August, for example, required a March date, so if we were to move to October 2025, there would be other consequential dates associated with that. However, that would be the full matter.