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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

I will need to get to the bottom of what I understood had been said.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Are you aware of existing examples of shared audit services or functions in the public sector that could serve as a model for SPCB supported bodies, as you discuss in your written submission?

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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

However, there might be some scope for officers to share internal audit functions and related matters.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

There is absolutely no doubt about the importance of the topics for the proposed new commissioners, but our discussion is about how we can most effectively represent those interests. Someone might be old, disabled, a victim of crime and neurodivergent, so separating advocacy roles might make it harder for people to get the support that they need, because they might not know where to go.

For the record, I note that the office of the Children and Young People鈥檚 Commissioner, which has been held up by you and other witnesses as an example of best practice, predates the Scottish Human Rights Commission and has a substantially different remit under the legislation. In their evidence, the SHRC and the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman described frustrations about the limitations of their roles under the legislation. Instead of creating new commissioners, why do the proposals for improved advocacy not include legislative changes to redefine the roles of existing bodies to give them powers that are more like those of the Children and Young People鈥檚 Commissioner?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

I have a question, convener, but only if there is time for it.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Several of the office-holders from whom we have received evidence have talked about audits. Indeed, the issue has come up frequently, and everyone has said that audits are important and that the scrutiny is both welcome and valuable. However, several office-holders have noted the issue of audit being proportionate, with some saying that they are audited twice a year and others saying that they also have an office or departmental audit, which in the process becomes part of a larger audit. It means that there are audits upon audits.

In previous evidence-taking sessions and written submissions, a discussion has arisen on whether there should be a single audit for all SPCB supported bodies. We understand that that would require legislative changes, but will you elaborate on the potential benefits and challenges of such an approach?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

In that case, there might be room to look at how the process could work in a more streamlined way, so that it is still effective but does not feel quite so burdensome.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Lorna Slater

There is no specific overlap with the SPSO, although, presumably, they could do similar things for a group of people of any age.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Lorna Slater

We have just heard from the chair of the SHRC, who described their role鈥攐r, rather, I described it to them, and I think that they signed up to what I was saying鈥攁s being almost a mirror image of what the SPSO does. The SHRC looks at systemic, almost preventative-level advice, whereby it investigates and researches a system or a group and it creates a report and gives advice on that, whereas the ombudsman reacts to individual cases of complaints that come in.

As well as reactive work, do you do that kind of preventative research and advice for broad groups? That could be for children in care鈥擨 do not know what groups you have been looking at. Do you take on specific cases or the investigation of any particular breaches?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Lorna Slater

Independent of whom? I do not think that there is any disagreement that you need to be independent of Government and of Parliament, but who else do you need to be independent from?