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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Lorna Slater

In previous evidence sessions, we heard from representatives of business and so on that they feel that they have a good understanding of the duties of business as regards reaching net zero, the wellbeing economy, the circular economy and the new kid on the block: being nature positive. However, I am not sure that that is what I have been hearing on the ground. I would love to hear from you guys how well you think Scottish businesses understand their duties in all those spaces, because that is quite a lot for them to take on.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

We have been speaking about how effective parliamentary committees are in scrutinising SPCB supported bodies, but those bodies do some really useful and valuable work, and we are not entirely confident that that work is always fed in effectively to the Parliament, then used. We are looking at how to make that system more effective.

Auditor General, I understand from Richard Leonard that you come into the Parliament weekly to give an update on your work and how things are going, but other supported bodies come to the Parliament only annually, and, when they do, they discuss their annual review rather than any specific and potentially crucial work that they are doing.

How did it come to be that you report weekly whereas the other bodies do so annually? Is that because of legislation, or is it just based on a code of practice? Is your approach an effective way of feeding in? Should other bodies be doing something similar? Should that approach be mandated? I am interested in your thoughts on that.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you. The committee鈥檚 role is to look at the potential structures, as opposed to any particular commissioner鈥檚 merits, because they will be decided on by the Parliament.

We have discussed how effective committees are in scrutinising SPCB supported bodies鈥攈ow much time and bandwidth they have to spend with those bodies鈥攂ut we have mentioned that several SPCB supported bodies do excellent work on really important things that is not fed into the Parliament at all. I am not even sure that we are using the bodies that we have effectively, in either direction. Do you have any thoughts about that?

Parliamentary committees are already having trouble scrutinising the SPCB supported bodies that we have. If there were more bodies, the committees would be spread even thinner. Equally, are you concerned that SPCB supported bodies are not having their fantastic work fed back into the Parliament? Would not the creation of more commissioners just make the level of scrutiny worse and reduce effectiveness?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Do Sarah Boyack or Jeremy Balfour have any comments?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

I want to clarify something. I understood from one of the committee鈥檚 evidence sessions that one of the offices gets audited twice a year, but you are saying that that is not accurate and that it is audited only once a year.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Therefore, you do not recognise the process as a layering of external audits. Do you think that the issue is about the relationship between internal and external audits?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

That is fine. I wonder whether Colin Smyth wants to come in briefly on that point before I go to my next question.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Colin Smyth alluded to the idea of having a minister for X鈥攖hat is, a minister to cover whatever advocacy we might be looking for. However, everyone is of the view that such things should be independent of Government. Is there any value at all in having, say, a minister for disabled people or a minister for older people to provide that complementary function and bring that advocacy into Government?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you.